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Minimum Voltage at incoming supply point

Retired now and not up to date with reg’s since 16th. Helping advise a friend. Currently they have 100amp single phase supply and whilst the no load voltage is up at around 238 volts, as the circuit is loaded, voltage drops off substantially. Even with a load of 50 amps, ie, half the supply fuse rating, voltage is slightly below the -6% limit, at around 215 volts, further load simply pushes voltage significantly lower, and by extrapolating measured data, it would be nearer 170 volts with a load of 100 amps, is this acceptable? I plan measuring Ze and pfc this week as a guide perhaps to supply loop impedance and, which I suspect must be causing this excessive drop. I’m aware of the ESQCR reg’s although need to update myself, but are there any other regulations that apply?

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  • Reply from SP this morning:-

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    Good Morning Clive,
    Thank you for your recent email.
    We only hold records for half hourly supplys.
    In order to asess what is in the property we would recommend applying for an additional load so that we can carry out a network study and advise you on the current capacity.
    If you require any further assistance please do not hesitate to contact us.
    Kind regards
    SP Energy Networks Contact Team
    Lister Drive
    Liverpool
    L13 7HJ
    0845 270 0783

    .../unquote.


    Actually, looking at the ESQCR http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2002/2665/contents/made 

    Information to be provided on request:-


    28. A distributor shall provide, in respect of any existing or proposed consumer’s installation

    which is connected or is to be connected to his network, to any person who can show a reasonable

    cause for requiring the information, a written statement of—

    (a) the maximum prospective short circuit current at the supply terminals;

    (b) for low voltage connections, the maximum earth loop impedance of the earth fault path

    outside the installation;

    (c) the type and rating of the distributor’s protective device or devices nearest to the supply

    terminals;

    (d) the type of earthing system applicable to the connection; and

    (e) the information specified in regulation 27(1),

    which apply, or will apply, to that installation.

     

    27.—(1) Before commencing a supply to a consumer’s installation, or when the existing supply characteristics have been modified, the supplier shall ascertain from the distributor and then declare to the consumer—




    (a)the number of phases;




    (b)the frequency; and




    (c)the voltage,


    So it would seem that the ASC is not something that the DNO should know?  That sort of implies that you can have what the cut-out fuse will allow? Perhaps as in using the words that some mobile phone operators use  to sell data say, "All you can eat" !


    Strange though their reference to half hourly metering, we have half hourly metering in our village hall, but I thought that was a supplier thing, rather than the DNO?


    Clive

     


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  • Reply from SP this morning:-

    Quote/...
    Good Morning Clive,
    Thank you for your recent email.
    We only hold records for half hourly supplys.
    In order to asess what is in the property we would recommend applying for an additional load so that we can carry out a network study and advise you on the current capacity.
    If you require any further assistance please do not hesitate to contact us.
    Kind regards
    SP Energy Networks Contact Team
    Lister Drive
    Liverpool
    L13 7HJ
    0845 270 0783

    .../unquote.


    Actually, looking at the ESQCR http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2002/2665/contents/made 

    Information to be provided on request:-


    28. A distributor shall provide, in respect of any existing or proposed consumer’s installation

    which is connected or is to be connected to his network, to any person who can show a reasonable

    cause for requiring the information, a written statement of—

    (a) the maximum prospective short circuit current at the supply terminals;

    (b) for low voltage connections, the maximum earth loop impedance of the earth fault path

    outside the installation;

    (c) the type and rating of the distributor’s protective device or devices nearest to the supply

    terminals;

    (d) the type of earthing system applicable to the connection; and

    (e) the information specified in regulation 27(1),

    which apply, or will apply, to that installation.

     

    27.—(1) Before commencing a supply to a consumer’s installation, or when the existing supply characteristics have been modified, the supplier shall ascertain from the distributor and then declare to the consumer—




    (a)the number of phases;




    (b)the frequency; and




    (c)the voltage,


    So it would seem that the ASC is not something that the DNO should know?  That sort of implies that you can have what the cut-out fuse will allow? Perhaps as in using the words that some mobile phone operators use  to sell data say, "All you can eat" !


    Strange though their reference to half hourly metering, we have half hourly metering in our village hall, but I thought that was a supplier thing, rather than the DNO?


    Clive

     


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