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Can’t work in Ireland

A young man from the U.K. with the electrotechnical NVQ L3, 2391 and 18th Edition has been excluded from a job in the Republic of Ireland because their NVQ is said to acquire a level 6 status as indeed does the Scottish NVQ. The NVQ L3 in the U.K. is mapped only to Level 5. The essential criteria for the job was level 6. Believe it or not, the job is nothing other than installing meters for ESB.

anyone know how these qualifications are mapped?
  • It is a bit of a laugh, 

    As the IoM is and always was outside the EU (despite having UK dial codes - Mobile roaming - ouch !),

    nothing actually changes

    It was always just the allowance for 10 days (per year) 'temporary' worker status without a work permit.
    https://www.gov.im/categories/working-in-the-isle-of-man/work-permits/temporary-exemptions/

    OR

    proof of a parent/grandparent being born and/or living at least 1 year there for worker status,

    else work permit required..


    As you say in effect you need a work permit for anything other than a quick installation.

    and there were always customs controls even if free movement and residence was allowed.


    Apart from how do you prove you don't need to prove your citizenship without showing it...

     any transport Co (airline , ferry etc) is allowed to set their own ID requirements anway...

    Hence most demand a passport.


    I love life (if I say it often enough... I will believe it)


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  • Nicola has plans for a Scottish Visa to allow people to move to Scotland to work, presumably that would involve a check on qualifications as well.


    They are all at it ?
  • It is also being reported that Boris has a plan to do something about the University tuition fees issues that restrict students choice of where to study, but not to favour those in England, Wales or Northern Ireland, so that just leaves the Scots on the winning side.


    The more  people have to pay to study and gain qualifications the less likely it is that people will have them, creating skills shortages in some places.


    Andy Betteridge.
  • Some years ago a customer who was ex-military said he was having issues at work in a government establishment, because their employment had been put over to a contractor who said they did not recognise military qualifications, only civilian qualifications, hence he was no longer qualified to do his job. ?
  • I cannot see a [problem myself - try working in the US or Australia - no difference.

    Much fuss about nothing really.
  • You cannot walk, ride a bike, thumb a lift, or drive to work in the US or Australia from anywhere in the UK,but you can do so to work in Eire and be back home in time for tea.


    Andy B.
  • You must have a fast bike, or live right next to a ferry terminal!

    My point is that you need a visa/work permit/security check/means of funding yourself during your stay if you wish to work in Oz or the US.

    My view is that we have lacked these requirements in this country for far too long now. These measures are merely demonstrating good custodianship of the country and are long overdue.

    Folk complain about shoddy work done by non-UK workers who don't know nor follow the wring regulations, and not being able to compete on price.

    Now that we are actually dong something about it, they are moaning again about the forthcoming lack of 'free movement'.

    You cannot have it both ways.

  • You must have a fast bike, or live right next to a ferry terminal!



    or live in that part of the UK which is attached to Eire - Northern Ireland?

      - Andy.
  • A guy I used to work with was a NICEIC registered contractor, he applied to go to New Zealand with his wife, he was accepted and allowed to work there with his wife being the lead applicant, but not was allowed to work as an electrician because his qualifications were not recognised in New Zealand. 


    Now it appears that electricians in Northern Ireland are not considered qualified to work as meter operatives south of the border.


    Being an older guy I have worked with countless Irish guys, the idea that people cannot move between the UK and Ireland to work because their qualifications are not recognised is laughable.


    Andy Betteridge
  • I once had to take an exam in Dublin in order to be signed off to work in UK.