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Which bits of domestic wiring does BS 7671 cover?

As BS 7671 has been gradually extending its scope over the years, so we're now just about at the point that it covers any electrical installation that isn't specifically covered by another (BS?) standard (to paraphrase section 110) - and specifically mentions communication, signalling and control fixed wiring. So I'm trying to figure out what standards apply to what:


A few examples:
  • Power and lighting - yes, I'm happy that's just BS 7671.

  • Phone cabling - comes under BS 6701 that seems clear enough (maybe in addition to BS 7671, but there's room for deviation from BS 7671 demands all the same)

  • ELV intruder alarm wiring - I've come across BS EN 50131 series but can't tell (without paying a fortune) whether that covers just individual components or also acts as an installation standard - anyone know?

  • Fixed speaker wiring (say from a wall or ceiling speaker to 4mm sockets/binding posts on the wall behind the hifi)

  • UHF co-ax (i.e. TV aerial/satellite)

  • LV control wiring for CH systems (I'm guessing this is BS 7671 although every EICR I see seems to suggest otherwise)

  • Likewise similar wiring - e.g. pump/valves for solar thermal systems, air-con or heatpumps.

  • ELV heating control wiring (e.g. from 12V 'network' type room 'stats to underfloor heating manifold controllers)

  • Structured cabling (CAT 5 kind of thing) - usually done to TIA/EIA-568 - am I right in thinking that BS EN 50173 is equivalent?


Anyone know of some standards that would apply to these instead of (or in addition to) BS 7671? Or on paper at least, should I be looking to find sheathed speaker cables, IP2X binding posts and a suitable 30mA RCD for when they're concealed in the wall (as far as I can tell the amplifier isn't a SELV source), intruder alarm contacts that don't rely on the timber door frame to complete the enclosure, or co-ax that complies with BS 5467, 6724, 7846, 8436 or 60702-1? ?


   - Andy.
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  • I think you may have slightly got the wrong end of my stick there Graham, as indeed Andy has pointed out as well. What I was trying to say is that BS7671 should cover fixed electrical installations only, and restrict itself to mains or 110V ones, or perhaps some appliance connected SELV (eg. wander lead lights) as well. The equipment standards, cables, accessories are fine as they stand and should be referenced. Thus the electrical designer has one book about the electrical requirements. If we wish to add 12V for vehicles or boats, this needs to be separate, although some equipment like MCBs might end up the same. The energy saving measures are really nothing to do with the electrical design, although in some cases they may reflect on the way the design is carried out, and should be in the building regulations or other place where that can reflect the entire building design, not just the electrical parts. There is very little in BS7671 which relates to networks, AV, or other systems which happen to have fixed cabling, and certainly setting colour codes for alarm, telecom and AV cables is just plain daft. The place for the requirements on non-collapse during fires is the building regulations for example, then fibre cables are already included by using the words "nothing may be fixed with fixings which are not fireproof if they can cause danger to escape or access during a fire". False ceilings are then immediately included, and pipework and aircon and everything else. This is probably far too simple a system for some to understand, but is logical.


    As the BRs are under currently under review, it would seem to moving all these thing there would be a good idea. I realise that the BRs are statutory, and BS7671 not, but again this is not an impossible problem to manage. It would also make buildings safer, because serious non compliances would be criminal ofences which most of us would not wish to commit.


    Regards
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  • I think you may have slightly got the wrong end of my stick there Graham, as indeed Andy has pointed out as well. What I was trying to say is that BS7671 should cover fixed electrical installations only, and restrict itself to mains or 110V ones, or perhaps some appliance connected SELV (eg. wander lead lights) as well. The equipment standards, cables, accessories are fine as they stand and should be referenced. Thus the electrical designer has one book about the electrical requirements. If we wish to add 12V for vehicles or boats, this needs to be separate, although some equipment like MCBs might end up the same. The energy saving measures are really nothing to do with the electrical design, although in some cases they may reflect on the way the design is carried out, and should be in the building regulations or other place where that can reflect the entire building design, not just the electrical parts. There is very little in BS7671 which relates to networks, AV, or other systems which happen to have fixed cabling, and certainly setting colour codes for alarm, telecom and AV cables is just plain daft. The place for the requirements on non-collapse during fires is the building regulations for example, then fibre cables are already included by using the words "nothing may be fixed with fixings which are not fireproof if they can cause danger to escape or access during a fire". False ceilings are then immediately included, and pipework and aircon and everything else. This is probably far too simple a system for some to understand, but is logical.


    As the BRs are under currently under review, it would seem to moving all these thing there would be a good idea. I realise that the BRs are statutory, and BS7671 not, but again this is not an impossible problem to manage. It would also make buildings safer, because serious non compliances would be criminal ofences which most of us would not wish to commit.


    Regards
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