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Local Isolation For A/C Internal Units

Sparkymania
Hi

Doing EICRs, and the remedials resulting from them.


An issue had been raging as to whether an internal unit needs to have a local isolator.

There have been 2 schools of thought over this issue with others I am working with.


First one:

It is a an electromechanical piece of equipment and needs a local isolator even though it is being fed by an external unit that has it's own isolation.

Second one:

It is fed by the external unit and they are both one piece of equipment even though they are split with the two parts in different places. Turning off the isolator to the external unit isolates all the equipment.


In my opinion a local isolator is still needed as there is no way of knowing if the internal unit is definitely part the the external unit being isolated. It may just be off at the controls.


I have come across many A/C units that have been installed by A/C engineers and they have not put an isolator on the internal unit. I'm wondering if there is a reason that they don't or if it's just ignorance of the regs on their part. I would have thought their training would have included that. Is there something that they know that means they don't need to install an isolator to the internal unit?


Anyone have any thoughts?


Thanks

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    OK. I accept what you say and agree. To a point. If the client wants the report to include everything do they not have the right to have that?

    However, I don't get involved with preparing the reports. I fill in front pages, test, inspect, record details of installation on schedule and test results.Send in faults by email.

    When I first went on the 2391, in about 2002 I think, I was virtually doing the same thing except for the change in technology. Now it's Ipads and Iphones. 

    I have rarely completed full EICR off my own back (apart from MWC and EIC). In fact I can't even recall the time that I did it's so long ago. They are competed in the office from the information I send in.

    I don't to testing all the time by the way. 75% of the time is installation work. If I had my way I wouldn't do any testing. Boring as hell but no choice.

    I recently did an EICR for a house for the son of one of the engineers from the estates office. Again, I send in information. I don't complete the report. There were some items that were of interest but not non-compliant. He had asked for anything that I found to be reported. Now, how that information was set out I don't know.

    However, I have just been through a few of the remedials sheets and have noticed that any non code items are at the end of each section referring to a particular DB. Code 2 first. Then Code 3. Then FI. Then no code. So if the client wants the information set out in this way, why can't they have it set out this way?
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    OK. I accept what you say and agree. To a point. If the client wants the report to include everything do they not have the right to have that?

    However, I don't get involved with preparing the reports. I fill in front pages, test, inspect, record details of installation on schedule and test results.Send in faults by email.

    When I first went on the 2391, in about 2002 I think, I was virtually doing the same thing except for the change in technology. Now it's Ipads and Iphones. 

    I have rarely completed full EICR off my own back (apart from MWC and EIC). In fact I can't even recall the time that I did it's so long ago. They are competed in the office from the information I send in.

    I don't to testing all the time by the way. 75% of the time is installation work. If I had my way I wouldn't do any testing. Boring as hell but no choice.

    I recently did an EICR for a house for the son of one of the engineers from the estates office. Again, I send in information. I don't complete the report. There were some items that were of interest but not non-compliant. He had asked for anything that I found to be reported. Now, how that information was set out I don't know.

    However, I have just been through a few of the remedials sheets and have noticed that any non code items are at the end of each section referring to a particular DB. Code 2 first. Then Code 3. Then FI. Then no code. So if the client wants the information set out in this way, why can't they have it set out this way?
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