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Local Isolation For A/C Internal Units

Hi

Doing EICRs, and the remedials resulting from them.


An issue had been raging as to whether an internal unit needs to have a local isolator.

There have been 2 schools of thought over this issue with others I am working with.


First one:

It is a an electromechanical piece of equipment and needs a local isolator even though it is being fed by an external unit that has it's own isolation.

Second one:

It is fed by the external unit and they are both one piece of equipment even though they are split with the two parts in different places. Turning off the isolator to the external unit isolates all the equipment.


In my opinion a local isolator is still needed as there is no way of knowing if the internal unit is definitely part the the external unit being isolated. It may just be off at the controls.


I have come across many A/C units that have been installed by A/C engineers and they have not put an isolator on the internal unit. I'm wondering if there is a reason that they don't or if it's just ignorance of the regs on their part. I would have thought their training would have included that. Is there something that they know that means they don't need to install an isolator to the internal unit?


Anyone have any thoughts?


Thanks

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  • Yes us and them we are poles apart!

    If you think it is safer or just more convenient to have a local isolator adjacent to a boiler or whatever then fine.

    Likewise if Corgi or Gase Safe or "our firm" or "your firm" think so then fine.

    But an EICR is soley dependant on BS7671 and is only interested in the BS7671 position on that particular install therefore SAT/UNSAT and possible coding is within the BS7671 position only. Another bit of paper must be used for any made up rules you`ve agreed with whoever you agreed it with.

    If you want to scribble on the bottom of the BS7671 EICR "* oh by the way, there`s another bit of paper listing some irrelevant bit of tittle tattle we`ve agreed with you atthe same time" well all well and good just so long as they are not listed as BS7671 departures
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  • Yes us and them we are poles apart!

    If you think it is safer or just more convenient to have a local isolator adjacent to a boiler or whatever then fine.

    Likewise if Corgi or Gase Safe or "our firm" or "your firm" think so then fine.

    But an EICR is soley dependant on BS7671 and is only interested in the BS7671 position on that particular install therefore SAT/UNSAT and possible coding is within the BS7671 position only. Another bit of paper must be used for any made up rules you`ve agreed with whoever you agreed it with.

    If you want to scribble on the bottom of the BS7671 EICR "* oh by the way, there`s another bit of paper listing some irrelevant bit of tittle tattle we`ve agreed with you atthe same time" well all well and good just so long as they are not listed as BS7671 departures
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