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RCD socket outlet.

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Hi all,
Any comments on this one most welcome!
A customer wants me to replace an existing one gang 13 amp socket outlet with a double.
The problem is that there's no rcd protection there, so i'm thinking that as I am in effect adding a socket outlet I should fit an rcd protected one?
If I were replacing like for like it wouldn't bother me at all but the fact it's going to be a double makes me think an rcd protected one is the thing to do, just seems a bit ott to fit one rcd protected socket when there are probably 20 others that aren't rcd'd!
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    John Peckham:

    Andy


    Thanks for the cue? Sockets with an integral RCD to BS7288 are not regognised in BS 7671, in fact they are excluded as BS 7671 only permis 3 devices for Additional Protection for use by ordinary persons.


    SRCD sockets and FCU to BS 7288 can only be used where they have upstream RCD protection. I know that sparkles may think that is daft, wish it were not true or may disagree with me. If so I would commend they read BS 7288: 2016.


    i would suggest Dave you fit an RCBO in the board, if it will not take one then fit an external RCD in an enclosure next to the board.




    Us sparkles do read BS7671. I have no particular inclination to read BS7288. BS7671 does have mistakes and the omission of SRCDs is one of them this time round. As far as I am aware JPEL/64 have acknowledged the error and this will be addressed in a future amendment, probably March 2022.  So carry on fitting them. If you feel uncomfortable about the BS7671 typo, then you can always record it as a departure. Though, IMO, that is a bit pendatic for domestic works, but perhaps for non-dom, where there is an explicit contract to comply with BS7671:2018, it is maybe a good idea to record as a departure. You will still likely get a raised eyebrow from the more technically minded clients when trying to explain the reason for stating a departure.

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    John Peckham:

    Andy


    Thanks for the cue? Sockets with an integral RCD to BS7288 are not regognised in BS 7671, in fact they are excluded as BS 7671 only permis 3 devices for Additional Protection for use by ordinary persons.


    SRCD sockets and FCU to BS 7288 can only be used where they have upstream RCD protection. I know that sparkles may think that is daft, wish it were not true or may disagree with me. If so I would commend they read BS 7288: 2016.


    i would suggest Dave you fit an RCBO in the board, if it will not take one then fit an external RCD in an enclosure next to the board.




    Us sparkles do read BS7671. I have no particular inclination to read BS7288. BS7671 does have mistakes and the omission of SRCDs is one of them this time round. As far as I am aware JPEL/64 have acknowledged the error and this will be addressed in a future amendment, probably March 2022.  So carry on fitting them. If you feel uncomfortable about the BS7671 typo, then you can always record it as a departure. Though, IMO, that is a bit pendatic for domestic works, but perhaps for non-dom, where there is an explicit contract to comply with BS7671:2018, it is maybe a good idea to record as a departure. You will still likely get a raised eyebrow from the more technically minded clients when trying to explain the reason for stating a departure.

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