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RCD socket outlet.

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Hi all,
Any comments on this one most welcome!
A customer wants me to replace an existing one gang 13 amp socket outlet with a double.
The problem is that there's no rcd protection there, so i'm thinking that as I am in effect adding a socket outlet I should fit an rcd protected one?
If I were replacing like for like it wouldn't bother me at all but the fact it's going to be a double makes me think an rcd protected one is the thing to do, just seems a bit ott to fit one rcd protected socket when there are probably 20 others that aren't rcd'd!
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  • Looks to me you`ve found the best workable solution under this set of circumstances.

    In an ideal world you`d RCD the whole circuit - extra cost and even more so if you find faults on the existing circuit or whatever is connected to it.

    If you`ve persuaded the customer to upgrade in the very near future and that is indeed all well and good.

    However, despite their intention today, it might not happen and they might get a bloke down the pub to do it.

    You might be called to justify your actions one day.

    It`s a judgement call, we all make them everyday in every walk of life.


    Example, I`ve rewired quite a few houses, the majority were occupied at the time, quite a few by 70, 80 even 90 year olds.

    Ideally strip out the old then rewire new.

    Often the existing would be pretty flimsy so disturbing it was a big no no.

    So I`d leave the existing running and do a complete new installation.

    On last day I`d disconnect the exisiting and power up the new.

    Phew! I could breathe again, their electrics is now "safe" whilst beforehand it was not.

    Do. I then strip out the old? Ideally yes, but often they do not want me to and I can`t persuade `em.

    Do I undertake the job in the first place or do I walk? I undertake it.

    I remember one time though I was dealing thru a person`s solicitor who had power of attorney.

    The existing was so bad it was pretty much lethal. Any banging on walls/lifting floorboards would increase the risks unacceptably.

    I was not prepared to risk that person.

    I insisted that I would only do it if the person moved out temporarily then I could strip out first then completely rewire.

    Even though I had evaluated that this particular person was not only old but of such a mental state that the trauma of temporary relocation would likely see them off.

    I passed the decision to the solicitor. Either leave them in a dangerous installation where they might just live out their days normally or move them temporary or permanently and perhaps kill `em off by moving.

    I walked, A rock and a hard place situation.

    Actually the solicitor agreed my dilema and was going to contact family and the local unsociable services people.

    I did hear, third hand, that the person was left in that situation and lived a further few years.

    Was that the right decision? NO, there was no right decision available, just alternative wrong decisions and you decide which wrong decision to make then you live with it.
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  • Looks to me you`ve found the best workable solution under this set of circumstances.

    In an ideal world you`d RCD the whole circuit - extra cost and even more so if you find faults on the existing circuit or whatever is connected to it.

    If you`ve persuaded the customer to upgrade in the very near future and that is indeed all well and good.

    However, despite their intention today, it might not happen and they might get a bloke down the pub to do it.

    You might be called to justify your actions one day.

    It`s a judgement call, we all make them everyday in every walk of life.


    Example, I`ve rewired quite a few houses, the majority were occupied at the time, quite a few by 70, 80 even 90 year olds.

    Ideally strip out the old then rewire new.

    Often the existing would be pretty flimsy so disturbing it was a big no no.

    So I`d leave the existing running and do a complete new installation.

    On last day I`d disconnect the exisiting and power up the new.

    Phew! I could breathe again, their electrics is now "safe" whilst beforehand it was not.

    Do. I then strip out the old? Ideally yes, but often they do not want me to and I can`t persuade `em.

    Do I undertake the job in the first place or do I walk? I undertake it.

    I remember one time though I was dealing thru a person`s solicitor who had power of attorney.

    The existing was so bad it was pretty much lethal. Any banging on walls/lifting floorboards would increase the risks unacceptably.

    I was not prepared to risk that person.

    I insisted that I would only do it if the person moved out temporarily then I could strip out first then completely rewire.

    Even though I had evaluated that this particular person was not only old but of such a mental state that the trauma of temporary relocation would likely see them off.

    I passed the decision to the solicitor. Either leave them in a dangerous installation where they might just live out their days normally or move them temporary or permanently and perhaps kill `em off by moving.

    I walked, A rock and a hard place situation.

    Actually the solicitor agreed my dilema and was going to contact family and the local unsociable services people.

    I did hear, third hand, that the person was left in that situation and lived a further few years.

    Was that the right decision? NO, there was no right decision available, just alternative wrong decisions and you decide which wrong decision to make then you live with it.
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