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Extra Low Voltage (ELV)

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Guys,


BS7671:2018 is classing cables extra low voltage (ELV) as an operating voltage not exceeding 50Vac or 120V ripple-free dc.


BS7671 goes on to further
categorize ELV cables into SELV, PELV, FELV.


For single core green/yellow insulated equipotential bonding cables lets say originating from an earth bar and bonding some structural steel work, are these classed as FELV under BS7671:2018 ?
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    gkenyon:




    Mike M:

    Guys,


    BS7671:2018 is classing cables extra low voltage (ELV) as an operating voltage not exceeding 50Vac or 120V ripple-free dc.


    BS7671 goes on to further
    categorize ELV cables into SELV, PELV, FELV.


    For single core green/yellow insulated equipotential bonding cables lets say originating from an earth bar and bonding some structural steel work, are these classed as FELV under BS7671:2018 ?




    No, green-and-yellow cables are protective conductors.


    As others have said, protective conductors can carry hazardous voltages and currents.


    Under normal circumstances, when connected properly in the electrical installation, they are considered safe to touch, at least in dry conditions, as they are connected to exposed-conductive-parts or extraneous-conductive-parts.


    However, once a protective conductor is disconnected at one end, it must be considered as hazardous to touch, and may in fact be carrying low voltage (LV) hazardous voltages and currents, and is therefore definitely never ELV.


    In HV installations, a different set of criteria exists, and in fact under fault conditions, earth conductors may even when connected be LV (or occasionally higher for short periods).


     




    I would say the single core green/yellow insulated equipotential bonding cables are generally considered safe to tough if disconnected at one end as they still provide basic protection as they are insulated but we are getting a bit side tracked here.


    To apply your logic you are saying that if a protective conductor can carry mains LV voltage then it is definitely never ELV. I would use a PELV circuit as an example, as you are aware PELV circuits can be connected to earth. Under fault conditions mains LV voltage could be present on that earth, but the PELV circuit is still an ELV circuit right ? 

     

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    gkenyon:




    Mike M:

    Guys,


    BS7671:2018 is classing cables extra low voltage (ELV) as an operating voltage not exceeding 50Vac or 120V ripple-free dc.


    BS7671 goes on to further
    categorize ELV cables into SELV, PELV, FELV.


    For single core green/yellow insulated equipotential bonding cables lets say originating from an earth bar and bonding some structural steel work, are these classed as FELV under BS7671:2018 ?




    No, green-and-yellow cables are protective conductors.


    As others have said, protective conductors can carry hazardous voltages and currents.


    Under normal circumstances, when connected properly in the electrical installation, they are considered safe to touch, at least in dry conditions, as they are connected to exposed-conductive-parts or extraneous-conductive-parts.


    However, once a protective conductor is disconnected at one end, it must be considered as hazardous to touch, and may in fact be carrying low voltage (LV) hazardous voltages and currents, and is therefore definitely never ELV.


    In HV installations, a different set of criteria exists, and in fact under fault conditions, earth conductors may even when connected be LV (or occasionally higher for short periods).


     




    I would say the single core green/yellow insulated equipotential bonding cables are generally considered safe to tough if disconnected at one end as they still provide basic protection as they are insulated but we are getting a bit side tracked here.


    To apply your logic you are saying that if a protective conductor can carry mains LV voltage then it is definitely never ELV. I would use a PELV circuit as an example, as you are aware PELV circuits can be connected to earth. Under fault conditions mains LV voltage could be present on that earth, but the PELV circuit is still an ELV circuit right ? 

     

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