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EICR code- Cooker switch with a socket outlet lacking RCD protection.

1980's end of terrace house, MEM Memera consumer unit with a RCBO to provide 30 mA RCD protection to the socket ring circuit, but no other circuits have RCD protection and there is not any outdoor sockets at all.


There is a cooker switch incorporating a 13-amp socket outlet, which is the closest socket to the kitchen window and with 1.5 metres of it, this socket does not have 30 mA RCD protection, what EICR code should be applied and why?


Andy Betteridge
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  • It is a decision  call for the inspector using his/her engineering judgment.


    It is a non-compliance with BS 7671 so needs recording in my view.


    Depending on actually seeing the installation myself my views are:-


    Unless the cable supplying the cooker panel is surface run, more than 50mm deep in the wall or is mechanically protected then that is a C3.


    If the socket could be used to supply mobile equipment outdoors then a C2. E.g near a door to the outside or a convenient window that could could be used to supply a jet wash, lawn mower, power tools etc.


    If the socket cannot reasonably be used to supply mobile equipment outside then a C3.


    I am risk averse and a strong believer in Rectum Protectum. I am not going to dilute my standards to please a client such as a landlord who does not give a stuff about their tenants. I make observations and recommendations based on my engineering judgment it is very much up to the client if they wish to accept or reject my advice as I cannot compel them to do anything.


    So if you are doing an inspection and test it is your report and your signature under the declaration. Just remember if you are standing in the square box gripping the rail and the man in the fancy dress and wig will ask you early in the cross examination, "is that your signature and date under the declaration on page 38 of the court bundle".  I have been in that square box on many occasions over the last 30 years as a witness and it is a scary place, I would not like to be there as a defendant.


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  • It is a decision  call for the inspector using his/her engineering judgment.


    It is a non-compliance with BS 7671 so needs recording in my view.


    Depending on actually seeing the installation myself my views are:-


    Unless the cable supplying the cooker panel is surface run, more than 50mm deep in the wall or is mechanically protected then that is a C3.


    If the socket could be used to supply mobile equipment outdoors then a C2. E.g near a door to the outside or a convenient window that could could be used to supply a jet wash, lawn mower, power tools etc.


    If the socket cannot reasonably be used to supply mobile equipment outside then a C3.


    I am risk averse and a strong believer in Rectum Protectum. I am not going to dilute my standards to please a client such as a landlord who does not give a stuff about their tenants. I make observations and recommendations based on my engineering judgment it is very much up to the client if they wish to accept or reject my advice as I cannot compel them to do anything.


    So if you are doing an inspection and test it is your report and your signature under the declaration. Just remember if you are standing in the square box gripping the rail and the man in the fancy dress and wig will ask you early in the cross examination, "is that your signature and date under the declaration on page 38 of the court bundle".  I have been in that square box on many occasions over the last 30 years as a witness and it is a scary place, I would not like to be there as a defendant.


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