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EICR code- Cooker switch with a socket outlet lacking RCD protection.

1980's end of terrace house, MEM Memera consumer unit with a RCBO to provide 30 mA RCD protection to the socket ring circuit, but no other circuits have RCD protection and there is not any outdoor sockets at all.


There is a cooker switch incorporating a 13-amp socket outlet, which is the closest socket to the kitchen window and with 1.5 metres of it, this socket does not have 30 mA RCD protection, what EICR code should be applied and why?


Andy Betteridge
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  • Chris Pearson:




    John Peckham:

    If the socket could be used to supply mobile equipment outdoors then a C2. E.g near a door to the outside or a convenient window that could could be used to supply a jet wash, lawn mower, power tools etc.




    John, why C2, which makes the installation unsatisfactory? Given a 50 m extension cable, any socket could be used to supply mobile equipment outdoors.


    Isn't that why BS 7671 now has 411.3.3 worded in the way it is, when formerly the wording in the 16th Edition Amendment 2:2004 Reg 471-16-01 was  "A socket-outlet rated 32 A or less which may reasonably be expected to supply portable equipment for use outdoors shall be provided with supplementary protection ..." ?


    It could be argued that the interpretation is now clearly stated in the requirements from 17th Ed (BS 7671:2008) onwards?




    So perhaps C2 is the only option unless the socket-outlet is located such that it's not available for "general use" (e.g. behind a large appliance etc.)?
     

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  • Chris Pearson:




    John Peckham:

    If the socket could be used to supply mobile equipment outdoors then a C2. E.g near a door to the outside or a convenient window that could could be used to supply a jet wash, lawn mower, power tools etc.




    John, why C2, which makes the installation unsatisfactory? Given a 50 m extension cable, any socket could be used to supply mobile equipment outdoors.


    Isn't that why BS 7671 now has 411.3.3 worded in the way it is, when formerly the wording in the 16th Edition Amendment 2:2004 Reg 471-16-01 was  "A socket-outlet rated 32 A or less which may reasonably be expected to supply portable equipment for use outdoors shall be provided with supplementary protection ..." ?


    It could be argued that the interpretation is now clearly stated in the requirements from 17th Ed (BS 7671:2008) onwards?




    So perhaps C2 is the only option unless the socket-outlet is located such that it's not available for "general use" (e.g. behind a large appliance etc.)?
     

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