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EICR code- Cooker switch with a socket outlet lacking RCD protection.

Sparkingchip
1980's end of terrace house, MEM Memera consumer unit with a RCBO to provide 30 mA RCD protection to the socket ring circuit, but no other circuits have RCD protection and there is not any outdoor sockets at all.


There is a cooker switch incorporating a 13-amp socket outlet, which is the closest socket to the kitchen window and with 1.5 metres of it, this socket does not have 30 mA RCD protection, what EICR code should be applied and why?


Andy Betteridge
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    Alcomax:




    Sparkingchip:

    The rental laws lack clarity, the government doesn’t actually seem to say if an EICR with C3 observations on it is acceptable or not.


    If there are EICRs with issues coded C3 will there have to be a lot of belated improvements and upgrades to electrical installation later this year?


    Andy Betteridge 




     

    That is not the case. The draft says


    (4) Where a report under sub-paragraph (3)(a) indicates that a private landlord is or is potentially in breach of the duty under sub-paragraph (1)(a) and the report requires the private landlord to undertake further investigative or remedial work, the private landlord must ensure that further investigative or remedial work is carried out by a qualified person



    That is clearly codes FI, C1 or C2, see section F of model form of EICR in BS7671.


    C3 is what it is. Advice for consideration. The draft does not state, in section 4 above, anything relating to "recommend improve".  All references in the draft , such as, " to standard" or "to BS7671" are referencing to the process of periodic reporting or to the expected standard of remedial action. That is perfectly normal. I can appreciate it may be a bit of a leap for those used to providing oven ready satisfactory EICRs, but this legislation does not mandate retrospective upgrading of the whole installation to the 18th . Reference to 18th is simply where we are.

     




    I'm still confused. As I see it the legislation requires compliance with (at present) the 18th -

     



    A private landlord(e) who grants or intends to grant a specified tenancy must—
    (a)ensure that the electrical safety standards are met during any period when the residential premises(f) are occupied under a specified tenancy;

     


    but then goes on to require an EICR - which really only deals with the question of whether the installation is safe enough for continued service - quite a different question to whether it complies complies with the current standard.


       - Andy.
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    Alcomax:




    Sparkingchip:

    The rental laws lack clarity, the government doesn’t actually seem to say if an EICR with C3 observations on it is acceptable or not.


    If there are EICRs with issues coded C3 will there have to be a lot of belated improvements and upgrades to electrical installation later this year?


    Andy Betteridge 




     

    That is not the case. The draft says


    (4) Where a report under sub-paragraph (3)(a) indicates that a private landlord is or is potentially in breach of the duty under sub-paragraph (1)(a) and the report requires the private landlord to undertake further investigative or remedial work, the private landlord must ensure that further investigative or remedial work is carried out by a qualified person



    That is clearly codes FI, C1 or C2, see section F of model form of EICR in BS7671.


    C3 is what it is. Advice for consideration. The draft does not state, in section 4 above, anything relating to "recommend improve".  All references in the draft , such as, " to standard" or "to BS7671" are referencing to the process of periodic reporting or to the expected standard of remedial action. That is perfectly normal. I can appreciate it may be a bit of a leap for those used to providing oven ready satisfactory EICRs, but this legislation does not mandate retrospective upgrading of the whole installation to the 18th . Reference to 18th is simply where we are.

     




    I'm still confused. As I see it the legislation requires compliance with (at present) the 18th -

     



    A private landlord(e) who grants or intends to grant a specified tenancy must—
    (a)ensure that the electrical safety standards are met during any period when the residential premises(f) are occupied under a specified tenancy;

     


    but then goes on to require an EICR - which really only deals with the question of whether the installation is safe enough for continued service - quite a different question to whether it complies complies with the current standard.


       - Andy.
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