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What work am I legally allowed to do

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Hello,


I have been working in the electrical sector since 2013. I came into it late as a career change because I was interested in renewables, and I was too old to get an apprenticeship, so I've had to learn by doing the 2330 and 17th edition, and getting practical experience as an electrician's mate or improver on construction sites. I've gathered all the evidence for my NVQ Level 3, but I failed my AM2 last year and I am now preparing to re-take it. I have a JIB card, up to last year I was designated: "Experienced Worker", but for some reason when I had to update it, it was changed to: "Electrical Labourer".


I had a 5 month job on a site near to my home which I very much enjoyed, but I was laid off when no longer needed in early February, and I've now been out of work for five weeks. As there's no sign of a job, I'm now thinking of working for myself, but I'm being careful. I did a little bit of work for myself in 2016 to 2017, but I eventually gave up because I wasn't making enough money and I was limited to doing sockets and lights, I couldn't legally test, inspect or sign work off in accordance with Part P. I wouldn't be able to take out insurance right now.


Do any experienced members who've worked for themselves know what range of work, if any, I can legally do without insurance and with a JIB Electrical Labourer card? I'm asking because I have always found it very frustrating in the electrical trade to know exactly what you can and can't do, my college, my tutors, training websites and even the JIB always seem to tell you different things. 

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    HI ebee


    If he's been working on construction sites - there every chance that he's never even played with or had a  look at a tester. (I'm sure that in college they'd have shown him something for a couple of minutes on a single phase DB). Maybe he's an expert tester - I don't know.


    I know many guys who'll install structure and pull cables when told what to run where. Usually someone else like a designer tells you what type and size of cables and what size of fuse protection.


    You can become a very good installer and electrician indeed and never once have had to do any testing or think about why you are doing something or consider other ways to do the job. You'll never even look at the regs book. The 18th edition course is something for designers in some circles. 


    I know most will say that if you cant test you're not an electrician, but these guys work with all sorts of stuff and  are better at ensuring isolations and assemble infrastructure that is just amazing.

     

    As long as a designer has done the design, and the electrician knows how to assemble the stated design with good terminations, cable runs etc then all is good on a big site.


    When you go on your own, it somehow gets a bit more complicated...............
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    HI ebee


    If he's been working on construction sites - there every chance that he's never even played with or had a  look at a tester. (I'm sure that in college they'd have shown him something for a couple of minutes on a single phase DB). Maybe he's an expert tester - I don't know.


    I know many guys who'll install structure and pull cables when told what to run where. Usually someone else like a designer tells you what type and size of cables and what size of fuse protection.


    You can become a very good installer and electrician indeed and never once have had to do any testing or think about why you are doing something or consider other ways to do the job. You'll never even look at the regs book. The 18th edition course is something for designers in some circles. 


    I know most will say that if you cant test you're not an electrician, but these guys work with all sorts of stuff and  are better at ensuring isolations and assemble infrastructure that is just amazing.

     

    As long as a designer has done the design, and the electrician knows how to assemble the stated design with good terminations, cable runs etc then all is good on a big site.


    When you go on your own, it somehow gets a bit more complicated...............
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