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EV charging provision as part of new build planning permission?

Former Community Member
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As per subject, I was asked this morning about the practicalities for EV provision by an electrician. Apparently, it has been stipulated as a condition of granting planning permission for some new build dwellings, so I asked for sight of this.


Whilst it is usual for the planning to seek comments from the water authority for sewage disposal, I doubt if the DNO has been consulted.


Has anyone else come across this?


Regards


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  • Former Community Member
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    A few points:


    UK didn't develop more nuclear because we had a stack of North Sea Gas - unlike France, which Mrs T used to keep costs down for UK PLC (and give the miners a thoroughly good shoeing)


    France is about twice the UK land area with a similar population - parts of it are extremely rural - so deploying 100A services to each and every house isn't (wasn't) feasible - hence their well developed Nuclear Generation, gets shared very effectively across the nation


    I've just had costs back for a power supply to new build house in France - I can select from a little as 4kVA capacity - if I select 12kVA (there phase) I can run my heat pump etc without to much bother, I'm planning about 4kVA of PV. Provided I manage my loads for heating, hot water, catering and EV Charging I can make it work on 12kVA with no PV contribution. I do have to put capital however into buffering, HWS Storage etc.


    I'm not convinced that switching from Gas to Electricity and switching from Petrol/Diesel to Electricity is such a problem in practice - sensible tariff structures (acting as both carrot and stick) along with modest investment in continuously improving infrastructure seems perfectly reasonable. What really needs to happen is understanding of the system architecture by Joe Public and what the implications if their decisions are. It's not difficult to see a scenario where Mr Sales Rep has two batteries - one in the vehicle and one on charge (probably from Solar).


    To use the Coronavirus analogy - we have enough food, we just need to even out demand. The power system won't cope with the equivalent of a £1 billion increase in food sales in 3 weeks - but it will cope when coupled with a combination of putative and incentivized demand tariffs


    Regards


    OMS




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  • Former Community Member
    0 Former Community Member
    A few points:


    UK didn't develop more nuclear because we had a stack of North Sea Gas - unlike France, which Mrs T used to keep costs down for UK PLC (and give the miners a thoroughly good shoeing)


    France is about twice the UK land area with a similar population - parts of it are extremely rural - so deploying 100A services to each and every house isn't (wasn't) feasible - hence their well developed Nuclear Generation, gets shared very effectively across the nation


    I've just had costs back for a power supply to new build house in France - I can select from a little as 4kVA capacity - if I select 12kVA (there phase) I can run my heat pump etc without to much bother, I'm planning about 4kVA of PV. Provided I manage my loads for heating, hot water, catering and EV Charging I can make it work on 12kVA with no PV contribution. I do have to put capital however into buffering, HWS Storage etc.


    I'm not convinced that switching from Gas to Electricity and switching from Petrol/Diesel to Electricity is such a problem in practice - sensible tariff structures (acting as both carrot and stick) along with modest investment in continuously improving infrastructure seems perfectly reasonable. What really needs to happen is understanding of the system architecture by Joe Public and what the implications if their decisions are. It's not difficult to see a scenario where Mr Sales Rep has two batteries - one in the vehicle and one on charge (probably from Solar).


    To use the Coronavirus analogy - we have enough food, we just need to even out demand. The power system won't cope with the equivalent of a £1 billion increase in food sales in 3 weeks - but it will cope when coupled with a combination of putative and incentivized demand tariffs


    Regards


    OMS




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