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S'fix Visit Today.

The famous supplier of plumbing, electrical and D.I.Y. stuff has removed all of its laminated catalogues that were previously on display, and some staff are wearing those sweaty black plastic gloves. Also the short pencils are no more. Also there is a one metre distance rule being enforced.


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  • mapj1:

    I think if it reaches the state of having the next generation paying back loans for the next 50 years to have no-one working for this one, and indeed a rise in assaults, stress related illness, divorce and so forth due to inactivity, we have rather missed the point altogether, I hope someone is properly calculating the cost of casualties that will arise.

    Even at a million pounds a life it is looking expensive to only save half a million fatalities.




    I'm glad you said that. I've been quietly pondering if things might not have been a lot easier if we'd just isolated all those who were particularly at risk and let everyone else go about as normal (a bit like the old measles parties) then hopefully within a few weeks we'd have immunity across the bulk of the population so the virus would find it a lot harder to spread and then could 'release' the vulnerable bit by bit as intensive care spaces were available. Not an easy decision of course and that approach could back-fire badly if isolation of the vulnerable couldn't be made effective. But on the other hand with no vaccine on the horizon it's likely that everyone will be exposed it eventually so perhaps the perceived emphasis should be more on managing those who will need extra help rather than trying to "stop" its spread.


    As for financial costs, I guess many value a life at about £1M - but in terms of justifying costs of treatment I'm told NICE usually start at just £20,000 per patient annum. The £350bn government package is likely only the tip of the iceberg to the economy - so how much per life? and how many of those lives would have been lost anyway in a similar timescale due to 'flu or other causes. I don't wish to sound harsh, but perhaps questions that need debating.


       - Andy.

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  • mapj1:

    I think if it reaches the state of having the next generation paying back loans for the next 50 years to have no-one working for this one, and indeed a rise in assaults, stress related illness, divorce and so forth due to inactivity, we have rather missed the point altogether, I hope someone is properly calculating the cost of casualties that will arise.

    Even at a million pounds a life it is looking expensive to only save half a million fatalities.




    I'm glad you said that. I've been quietly pondering if things might not have been a lot easier if we'd just isolated all those who were particularly at risk and let everyone else go about as normal (a bit like the old measles parties) then hopefully within a few weeks we'd have immunity across the bulk of the population so the virus would find it a lot harder to spread and then could 'release' the vulnerable bit by bit as intensive care spaces were available. Not an easy decision of course and that approach could back-fire badly if isolation of the vulnerable couldn't be made effective. But on the other hand with no vaccine on the horizon it's likely that everyone will be exposed it eventually so perhaps the perceived emphasis should be more on managing those who will need extra help rather than trying to "stop" its spread.


    As for financial costs, I guess many value a life at about £1M - but in terms of justifying costs of treatment I'm told NICE usually start at just £20,000 per patient annum. The £350bn government package is likely only the tip of the iceberg to the economy - so how much per life? and how many of those lives would have been lost anyway in a similar timescale due to 'flu or other causes. I don't wish to sound harsh, but perhaps questions that need debating.


       - Andy.

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