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kA^2s

This is not something I need answered: I already have a view - although someone might manage to change it. It's hoped to be a quiz-like stimulus to think about caution with units and prefixes. A comment here a week or two ago prompted me to look again in a standard - this time IEC61008-1 (2010). There I noticed a table of peak currents Ip and 'let through' I2t, that the devices are tested with. Here's a small excerpt,

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The columns give test values for RCDs that have rated currents 16 A and 20 A and with rated withstand of 6 kA 'prospective'. (The low Ip values are reasonable if the RCD is expected to be protected by a current-limiting device rated close to its own rated current In.) 


It seems that the unit they give for I2t is used in a way I've also seen in one manufacturer's specifications for MCBs/fuses.
But is this 'correct'?  

A comparison to mm^2 might be helpful. 



The login process reminded me of another question that often occurs when seeing the IEE building, or logging into a 'thexxx.org' website: nearly 20 years on, is there anyone who sees a benefit of the change from IEE to THEIET? Too late now, in any case. One can hope the name doesn't make too much difference to what happens either way, although I feels the lack of mention of electricity is a bit strange for the institution's current or past work. I wonder if the cynical view I had at the time of the vote was actually unjust. 

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  • I 2t has a real physical significance - in the same way as the power dissipated in a resistor passing a given current is I2 R the power times time during a fault large enough and fast enough we can ignore slow effects like cooling, is a proxy for the energy absorbed before the power is cut, and so how hot things are at the moment the ADS does its thing.

    As such it allows us to say something about the ultimate temperature reached inside a given bit of equipment, if we know its resistance and the thermal mass that is being heated.  This in turn allows us to decide if something melts, or is vapourized, or indeed is redistributed to the four winds as if a small bomb  had gone off. We can then decide if we should stock a spare fuse,  a spare fuse and holder,  a replacement box, or indeed a replacement transformer and substation roof (some designs being intended to blow off gracefully for the ultimate event.)


    For a thermal fuse in a well controlled thermal environment (sand filled ceramic tube anyone) this works very well.

    The BUT, and it is a big BUT,  is that it is not suitable for mechanical ADS with moving contacts - inertia and saturating iron cores of solenoids conspire to limit the maximum speed, so it stops getting faster at higher current beyond a certain point.

    Hence the 'death or glory' fuse in the basement of all well designed installations, though  it's true function in limiting the total energy that gets downstream, is often misunderstood.

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  • I 2t has a real physical significance - in the same way as the power dissipated in a resistor passing a given current is I2 R the power times time during a fault large enough and fast enough we can ignore slow effects like cooling, is a proxy for the energy absorbed before the power is cut, and so how hot things are at the moment the ADS does its thing.

    As such it allows us to say something about the ultimate temperature reached inside a given bit of equipment, if we know its resistance and the thermal mass that is being heated.  This in turn allows us to decide if something melts, or is vapourized, or indeed is redistributed to the four winds as if a small bomb  had gone off. We can then decide if we should stock a spare fuse,  a spare fuse and holder,  a replacement box, or indeed a replacement transformer and substation roof (some designs being intended to blow off gracefully for the ultimate event.)


    For a thermal fuse in a well controlled thermal environment (sand filled ceramic tube anyone) this works very well.

    The BUT, and it is a big BUT,  is that it is not suitable for mechanical ADS with moving contacts - inertia and saturating iron cores of solenoids conspire to limit the maximum speed, so it stops getting faster at higher current beyond a certain point.

    Hence the 'death or glory' fuse in the basement of all well designed installations, though  it's true function in limiting the total energy that gets downstream, is often misunderstood.

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