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80% pay

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This does raise a few points! I can see both sides having spent 13 years as an employee interspersed with being self-employed out of my total of 46 years working.

My understanding is:

I'd say most business use an accountant to minimise their tax bill by claiming for office items including the new phone monthly rental, new lap top etc yet alone other things as transport costs including the new van, all of which are not available to the employed.

I suspect also that quite a few jobs that are paid in cash, are not always declared in full.

Purchase of tools and equipment also tends to be a call made on reducing taxable income when there is a profit to be reduced.

The consequence I see is that the tax paid averaged over the last three years will be lower and subsequently, any "Government" pay given out in June will be considerably less than the living standards some have got used to............... One "perk" is that they can still continue earning whereas to qualify for the employee 80%, they must be furloughed. 

Secondly, those small or sole traders fronted with a Ltd company are employees, so does the Ltd company have to pay themselves as per the 80% scheme in place for employees? The directors of those companies are not self employed, they also take dividends to reduce tax, so have they excluded themselves from yesterday's announcement? Yet alone to be furloughed, they must not do any work at all for their employer, ie their own business?


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  • wallywombat:

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    Don`t forget, normal seaonal flu is doing the rounds as usual too. Normal flu is a killer. I once got flu and I never want to get it again, I felt like I was dying, I can understand how flu can kill people, I was a lot younger and fitter when I got it, it was terrible back then. Nowadays it could kill me. I`d had mild colds. bad colds and some hum dingers of co lds that 2 or 3 times I thought were flu but once I got flu I realised I`d never had it before.

    I believe Bird Flu turned out to be not as bad as they thouht it might be.


    Some will die of Corona (or Flu).

    Some will recover pretty well.

    Some will struggle without magnificent NHS intervention - they are the ones we are trying to save, let`s hope it works.

    Hit the peak, flatten it, squash it, spread it out. If everyone that is going to get it still gets it but we have a chance to make a big difference (we hope). If the NHS is overwhelmed then other serious interventions suffer too and more folk will sucumb to them serious illnesses and accidents.


    Good luck everybody

     

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  • wallywombat:

    Further, the point of testing (at least if done on a large scale like South Korea, rather than the half-arsed UK approach so far) is that it allows you to relax self-isolation in a controlled fashion, and quickly jump on any hotspots that reemerge. You test people  who haven't developed symptoms yet, rather than waiting for them to show symptoms, by which time they would have been shedding virii for a week.




    Good sensible theory methinks. Will it work? Who knows. Let`s hope we find out that it does work but brace ourselves that it might not.


    Don`t forget, normal seaonal flu is doing the rounds as usual too. Normal flu is a killer. I once got flu and I never want to get it again, I felt like I was dying, I can understand how flu can kill people, I was a lot younger and fitter when I got it, it was terrible back then. Nowadays it could kill me. I`d had mild colds. bad colds and some hum dingers of co lds that 2 or 3 times I thought were flu but once I got flu I realised I`d never had it before.

    I believe Bird Flu turned out to be not as bad as they thouht it might be.


    Some will die of Corona (or Flu).

    Some will recover pretty well.

    Some will struggle without magnificent NHS intervention - they are the ones we are trying to save, let`s hope it works.

    Hit the peak, flatten it, squash it, spread it out. If everyone that is going to get it still gets it but we have a chance to make a big difference (we hope). If the NHS is overwhelmed then other serious interventions suffer too and more folk will sucumb to them serious illnesses and accidents.


    Good luck everybody

     

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