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This does raise a few points! I can see both sides having spent 13 years as an employee interspersed with being self-employed out of my total of 46 years working.

My understanding is:

I'd say most business use an accountant to minimise their tax bill by claiming for office items including the new phone monthly rental, new lap top etc yet alone other things as transport costs including the new van, all of which are not available to the employed.

I suspect also that quite a few jobs that are paid in cash, are not always declared in full.

Purchase of tools and equipment also tends to be a call made on reducing taxable income when there is a profit to be reduced.

The consequence I see is that the tax paid averaged over the last three years will be lower and subsequently, any "Government" pay given out in June will be considerably less than the living standards some have got used to............... One "perk" is that they can still continue earning whereas to qualify for the employee 80%, they must be furloughed. 

Secondly, those small or sole traders fronted with a Ltd company are employees, so does the Ltd company have to pay themselves as per the 80% scheme in place for employees? The directors of those companies are not self employed, they also take dividends to reduce tax, so have they excluded themselves from yesterday's announcement? Yet alone to be furloughed, they must not do any work at all for their employer, ie their own business?


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    Chris Pearson:



    I do wish that all this talk about ventilators would stop. Full ventilation requires an ITU bed and they require personnel, who cannot be trained in just a few days.


     




     

    Exactly - a ventilated patient is normally highly sedated and intubated- ie they cannot breath for themselves and need full mechanical assistance to do so and need to be within an ITU environment principally as lots of other bits will be failing as well


    What is probably more useful is an assisted breathing capability which is what the Nightingales are providing - ie breathing air and 02 at a bedhead supplied to a conscious patient to assist their breathing and 02 uptake whilst lungs are compromised due to being full of gunk (technical term)


    My estimate was 300,000 cases by Easter, 30,000 of which will be pretty ill and 3,000 will have pegged it - we seem a bit beyond that at the moment


    Personally, I think any government is going to have to release the stranglehold by June to allow some businesses to survive and use the summer to plan for the second wave of this which will still be ongoing this time next year - but hopefully we then have people still able to function as immunities etc kick in


    We'll be paying the bill for a generation at least


    Regards


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    Chris Pearson:



    I do wish that all this talk about ventilators would stop. Full ventilation requires an ITU bed and they require personnel, who cannot be trained in just a few days.


     




     

    Exactly - a ventilated patient is normally highly sedated and intubated- ie they cannot breath for themselves and need full mechanical assistance to do so and need to be within an ITU environment principally as lots of other bits will be failing as well


    What is probably more useful is an assisted breathing capability which is what the Nightingales are providing - ie breathing air and 02 at a bedhead supplied to a conscious patient to assist their breathing and 02 uptake whilst lungs are compromised due to being full of gunk (technical term)


    My estimate was 300,000 cases by Easter, 30,000 of which will be pretty ill and 3,000 will have pegged it - we seem a bit beyond that at the moment


    Personally, I think any government is going to have to release the stranglehold by June to allow some businesses to survive and use the summer to plan for the second wave of this which will still be ongoing this time next year - but hopefully we then have people still able to function as immunities etc kick in


    We'll be paying the bill for a generation at least


    Regards


    OMS
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