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EV CHARGING EQUIPMENT

I am hearing from my network of contractors, that have actually read the new 722, that they have been asking charging equipment manufactures for documentary proof to comply with Note 5 of 722.411.4.


They are getting knocked back for asking or in one case a Declaration that says the particular device complies with BS 7671. I think that is wrong to declare that as BS 7671 is an installation safety standard and not a product standard. I believe that as a minimum the equipment must comply with the Low Voltage Directive and be CE marked. I also believe that manufacturers have to issue a Declaration of Conformity. 


BS 7671 722 has numerous references to the various standards required such as BS EN 61851 that the equipment must comply with. I am thinking it may be illegal to offer the sale of equipment that does not comply with the Low Voltage Directive and is not CE marked?


I am hoping the countries top man of equipment safety standards, Paul Skyrme , sees this post and will come on and give us his expert view?


Has any forum member asked for a Declaration of Conformity from EV charging equipment manufacturers and received one?
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  • A large part of the compliance and the effort in  the technical file will not be under the HSE machinery at work  remit if it is intended for home use, but rather  falls under the rather quaint title of weights and measures, which is where the responsibility for enforcement of all the EMC and related legislation falls.

    Between them, the HSE and the various trading standards folk for each local authority are the UK's main  market surveillance authorities (MSA) . HSE looks mostly at the workplace, and trading standards the rest.


    As such local authority trading standards are the folk who can (but rarely do) demand  to see the maker's technical construction files  (TCF) or other proof of compliance in respect of those standards.

    (https://www.tradingstandards.uk/media/documents/news--policy/other/list-of-statutory-duties.pdf)



    It is largely left to those placing equipment on the marked to decide which of the various standards apply to their product, and then to sign some statement to say that they believe they do. Personally I have very little to do with the HSE, but my experience of trading standards is that they are not really well enough staffed with the right sort of folk and equipment for the modern role - inspections of market stalls selling dodgy burgers well kitted out perhaps, but subtleties about conducted  emissions from doubtfully CE marked kit, which is what we have here, most are likely to be rather on shaky ground.

    In many ways the regulatory regime is too fragmented and too complex to work as intended, so it is very 'wild west'.

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  • A large part of the compliance and the effort in  the technical file will not be under the HSE machinery at work  remit if it is intended for home use, but rather  falls under the rather quaint title of weights and measures, which is where the responsibility for enforcement of all the EMC and related legislation falls.

    Between them, the HSE and the various trading standards folk for each local authority are the UK's main  market surveillance authorities (MSA) . HSE looks mostly at the workplace, and trading standards the rest.


    As such local authority trading standards are the folk who can (but rarely do) demand  to see the maker's technical construction files  (TCF) or other proof of compliance in respect of those standards.

    (https://www.tradingstandards.uk/media/documents/news--policy/other/list-of-statutory-duties.pdf)



    It is largely left to those placing equipment on the marked to decide which of the various standards apply to their product, and then to sign some statement to say that they believe they do. Personally I have very little to do with the HSE, but my experience of trading standards is that they are not really well enough staffed with the right sort of folk and equipment for the modern role - inspections of market stalls selling dodgy burgers well kitted out perhaps, but subtleties about conducted  emissions from doubtfully CE marked kit, which is what we have here, most are likely to be rather on shaky ground.

    In many ways the regulatory regime is too fragmented and too complex to work as intended, so it is very 'wild west'.

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