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EV CHARGING EQUIPMENT

I am hearing from my network of contractors, that have actually read the new 722, that they have been asking charging equipment manufactures for documentary proof to comply with Note 5 of 722.411.4.


They are getting knocked back for asking or in one case a Declaration that says the particular device complies with BS 7671. I think that is wrong to declare that as BS 7671 is an installation safety standard and not a product standard. I believe that as a minimum the equipment must comply with the Low Voltage Directive and be CE marked. I also believe that manufacturers have to issue a Declaration of Conformity. 


BS 7671 722 has numerous references to the various standards required such as BS EN 61851 that the equipment must comply with. I am thinking it may be illegal to offer the sale of equipment that does not comply with the Low Voltage Directive and is not CE marked?


I am hoping the countries top man of equipment safety standards, Paul Skyrme , sees this post and will come on and give us his expert view?


Has any forum member asked for a Declaration of Conformity from EV charging equipment manufacturers and received one?
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  • You are right Mike that should be mA not ms in the first paragraph, typical first draft I am afraid. I didn't mention another interesting thing either, and that is that switching the DC on, or resetting the RCD with it on also usually causes another trip, as the current edge obviously causes an inbalance and fires the mechanism. I need to find some other makes of RCD, I have never taken one of this type apart although have used a lot, and have found them particularly reliable. As far as the PSU goes, as there is no load and I put the PSU in the neutral connection there is also no mains voltage difference. The Megger obviously applies the live to earth to get the fault current, and so there is no great danger. Also the PSU is pretty robust anyway, with some capacitance across the outputs, so I don't expect trouble. The only problem I have had with one of these was due to battery charging for long periods at maximum output, the output current sense resistor changed value upwards making the meter reading and current limit rather unsatisfactory (and only 6A too into a 100AH battery so connected a long time). These RCDs are comparatively cheap and from China (isn't everything) and may be from the same factory as some other makes, they are a massive player in the market.


    Looking at the results it appears that this type would be fine in a car charging point, there is not a DC problem at 20mA, and they are more than fast enough to give excellent protection although supposedly "only" to 61008-1.
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  • You are right Mike that should be mA not ms in the first paragraph, typical first draft I am afraid. I didn't mention another interesting thing either, and that is that switching the DC on, or resetting the RCD with it on also usually causes another trip, as the current edge obviously causes an inbalance and fires the mechanism. I need to find some other makes of RCD, I have never taken one of this type apart although have used a lot, and have found them particularly reliable. As far as the PSU goes, as there is no load and I put the PSU in the neutral connection there is also no mains voltage difference. The Megger obviously applies the live to earth to get the fault current, and so there is no great danger. Also the PSU is pretty robust anyway, with some capacitance across the outputs, so I don't expect trouble. The only problem I have had with one of these was due to battery charging for long periods at maximum output, the output current sense resistor changed value upwards making the meter reading and current limit rather unsatisfactory (and only 6A too into a 100AH battery so connected a long time). These RCDs are comparatively cheap and from China (isn't everything) and may be from the same factory as some other makes, they are a massive player in the market.


    Looking at the results it appears that this type would be fine in a car charging point, there is not a DC problem at 20mA, and they are more than fast enough to give excellent protection although supposedly "only" to 61008-1.
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