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EV load control

I am aware of many ways a load can be controlled in terms of its current demand, however, does any know how EV charging demand is controlled. If I understood that many EVs have a 3.6KW or 7KW setting but nothing onboard that would adjust current demand. How is close control likely to be effected?
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  • mapj1:

    The charger clever bit is in the car, and can modulate the load, rather like a lamp dimmer, by changing the on-to off time ratio of the switching transistors.  This is done in response to the duty cycle (pulse width modultion = PWM) of a 1KHz tone generateed  by the charging point that you have just plugged it into,

    16% PWM is a 10 A maximum, a 25% PWM is a 16 A maximum, a 50% PWM is a 32 A maximum

    normally the programmable current is not really just these discrete values , but can be varied continuously (you could make a charge point with a twiddly knob to set the mark to space ratio and then allow you to wind the current load the car presents up and down at will - in reality it is fixed at build time).  

    As graham alludes some use CAN bus instead, but not yet many


    Agreed, except:



    • the car can choose to draw a lesser current than that stated as available from the charger by the pilot pulsed signal- which it may choose to do depending on the charge profile of the battery, and where it's up to in the cycle.

    • To get a charging current of > 80 A [per phase] you need DC rapid charging.

    • Duty cycle of the pulsed pilot signal is not directly proportional to the current over the whole range, it follows this schema (linear plus offset where charging current > 50 A):

    Duty cycle of pulsed signal received from EVSE

    Max current the vehicle may draw

    < 3 %

    Charging not permitted

    3 % ≤ duty cycle ≤ 7 %

    Digital comms will be used to control off-board DC charger or communicate line current for on-board charger. Digital comms may also be used with other duty cycles, but current draw must not exceed that indicated by a duty cycle between 8 % and 97 % even if the digital comms indicates a higher current.

    Charging is not allowed without digital communication.

    5 % duty cycle shall be used if the pilot function wire is used for digital communication

    7 % < duty cycle < 8 %

    Charging not permitted

    8 % ≤ duty cycle < 10 %

    6 A

    10 % duty cycle 85 %

    Available current = (% duty cycle) × 0.6 A

    85 % < duty cycle ≤ 96 %

    Available current = (% duty cycle - 64) × 2.5 A

    Duty cycle > 97 %

    Charging not permitted

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  • mapj1:

    The charger clever bit is in the car, and can modulate the load, rather like a lamp dimmer, by changing the on-to off time ratio of the switching transistors.  This is done in response to the duty cycle (pulse width modultion = PWM) of a 1KHz tone generateed  by the charging point that you have just plugged it into,

    16% PWM is a 10 A maximum, a 25% PWM is a 16 A maximum, a 50% PWM is a 32 A maximum

    normally the programmable current is not really just these discrete values , but can be varied continuously (you could make a charge point with a twiddly knob to set the mark to space ratio and then allow you to wind the current load the car presents up and down at will - in reality it is fixed at build time).  

    As graham alludes some use CAN bus instead, but not yet many


    Agreed, except:



    • the car can choose to draw a lesser current than that stated as available from the charger by the pilot pulsed signal- which it may choose to do depending on the charge profile of the battery, and where it's up to in the cycle.

    • To get a charging current of > 80 A [per phase] you need DC rapid charging.

    • Duty cycle of the pulsed pilot signal is not directly proportional to the current over the whole range, it follows this schema (linear plus offset where charging current > 50 A):

    Duty cycle of pulsed signal received from EVSE

    Max current the vehicle may draw

    < 3 %

    Charging not permitted

    3 % ≤ duty cycle ≤ 7 %

    Digital comms will be used to control off-board DC charger or communicate line current for on-board charger. Digital comms may also be used with other duty cycles, but current draw must not exceed that indicated by a duty cycle between 8 % and 97 % even if the digital comms indicates a higher current.

    Charging is not allowed without digital communication.

    5 % duty cycle shall be used if the pilot function wire is used for digital communication

    7 % < duty cycle < 8 %

    Charging not permitted

    8 % ≤ duty cycle < 10 %

    6 A

    10 % duty cycle 85 %

    Available current = (% duty cycle) × 0.6 A

    85 % < duty cycle ≤ 96 %

    Available current = (% duty cycle - 64) × 2.5 A

    Duty cycle > 97 %

    Charging not permitted

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