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MCB size for dedicated fused spurs

A little thought, when installing a new circuit for a fused spur to supply an alarm or something similar, just about everyone uses a standard 2.5mm radial circuit, but the MCB size seems to vary from 16a down to 6. 


part of me (the larger part) thinks, just keep it standard 16a, and another part says to size the breaker to the load 


(I'm a specifier, not installer)
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  • gkenyon:
     


    A supply to an alarm system or control system is definitely a power circuit. The function of the circuit is definitely not not "signalling and control".

     




    I see what you are saying here in that the part of a circuit from the CU to the FCU has a solely power-supplying purpose, much like a distribution circuit. And that the part of the circuit past the FCU, which, because it has its own OCPD and can be considered to be a circuit in its own right, can have the reduced minimum CSA of 0.5 or 0.1mm2. But you mentioned in your earlier post that the fuse in the FCU would/could be redundant and if manufacturers' instructions do not specify an FCU, then it could be omitted, making the whole circuit from the CU a "signalling and control" circuit.

    Also, the definition of a circuit in BS7671 states that more than one OCPD can be incorporated in a circuit, therefore irrespective of whether an FCU is used, the purpose of the whole circuit from the CU could be defined as a "signalling and control" circuit.

    I am not nit picking, just pointing out apparent inconsistencies in BS7671, I agree with Andy in the thread I linked to earlier, it would make sense if BS7671 defined power circuits etc but it doesn't.

     


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  • gkenyon:
     


    A supply to an alarm system or control system is definitely a power circuit. The function of the circuit is definitely not not "signalling and control".

     




    I see what you are saying here in that the part of a circuit from the CU to the FCU has a solely power-supplying purpose, much like a distribution circuit. And that the part of the circuit past the FCU, which, because it has its own OCPD and can be considered to be a circuit in its own right, can have the reduced minimum CSA of 0.5 or 0.1mm2. But you mentioned in your earlier post that the fuse in the FCU would/could be redundant and if manufacturers' instructions do not specify an FCU, then it could be omitted, making the whole circuit from the CU a "signalling and control" circuit.

    Also, the definition of a circuit in BS7671 states that more than one OCPD can be incorporated in a circuit, therefore irrespective of whether an FCU is used, the purpose of the whole circuit from the CU could be defined as a "signalling and control" circuit.

    I am not nit picking, just pointing out apparent inconsistencies in BS7671, I agree with Andy in the thread I linked to earlier, it would make sense if BS7671 defined power circuits etc but it doesn't.

     


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