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elcb and borehole pump

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Hello

I have a problem with a newly installed domestic borehole pump. This is to replace the original pump which after 20 years has given up the ghost.

The pump appears to operate satisfactorily except that it trips the consumer unit elcb on starting and only on starting. Resetting the elcb allows the pump to run normally. The time taken to push the elcb switch back up is presumably sufficient for some transient effect to end.


The house wiring is exactly the same as for the original pump, which ran satisfactorily for 20 years.


The installer has carried out all the tests normally conducted on the pump and pump cable (continuity, insulation, running current, etc.) and claims that the pump is not faulty. Yet it trips the elcb on startup.


I will welcome any suggestions for a solution. The installer is a one man firm and is reluctant (to say the least) to change the pump.


Mike Lee
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  • If the pump is modern, with some built-in soft-starting (or running) electronics, it may have a filter with capacitance L-E & N-E as well as L-N, so a brief current can flow L-E when turned on.  I've seen this trip at least older RCDs from e.g. a washing-machine filter, just at the time of turning on or off the socket. However, like several other speculations before it, this doesn't very satisfyingly explain why the RCD would show no sign of trying to trip when it, instead of the pump control, turns the pump on.  The obvious ideal is to view the start-up residual current, but I assume you don't have some fancy clamp and plotting-device. Given that RCDs are easier to change than pumps down deep holes, the earlier reply about a brand recognised as being more resistant to brief leakage might be worth pursuing, in spite of the cost.  The idea of N-E faults (for the rest of the installation too, with normally-connected appliances, not just the pump) that was already mentioned sounds worth checking with a simple insulation test, if the motor takes high starting current in spite of its low running current. A diagram of the setup (including pressure switch) and the tests you've already done would be helpful.
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  • If the pump is modern, with some built-in soft-starting (or running) electronics, it may have a filter with capacitance L-E & N-E as well as L-N, so a brief current can flow L-E when turned on.  I've seen this trip at least older RCDs from e.g. a washing-machine filter, just at the time of turning on or off the socket. However, like several other speculations before it, this doesn't very satisfyingly explain why the RCD would show no sign of trying to trip when it, instead of the pump control, turns the pump on.  The obvious ideal is to view the start-up residual current, but I assume you don't have some fancy clamp and plotting-device. Given that RCDs are easier to change than pumps down deep holes, the earlier reply about a brand recognised as being more resistant to brief leakage might be worth pursuing, in spite of the cost.  The idea of N-E faults (for the rest of the installation too, with normally-connected appliances, not just the pump) that was already mentioned sounds worth checking with a simple insulation test, if the motor takes high starting current in spite of its low running current. A diagram of the setup (including pressure switch) and the tests you've already done would be helpful.
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