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Fire Supports on Cat5 cables EICR

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Hope im in the right section.


Doing an EICR, and the install has a false ceiling which is a drop out tile from the grid. Orginal install very good with Trunking and tube, all on hangers and fixed with anchors to the slab. So no problems there.

Then Mr IT guy, has lashed cat5 cables across the ceiling, just laying on the ceiling grid. So with 18th edition, and with cat5 being POE, as an inspector Im thinking about coding as a C3, as under collaspe, these cables would drop to floor. Or should I just leave alone as maybe not part of the electrical system?


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    There are suspended ceilings and suspended ceilings - The sort that wobble and look like they may collapse in a strong wind are probably a hazard in an emergency,  if there are network cables or not, some folks idea of a fixing for a suspension wire seems to be a few screws and a plastic plugs as far apart as possible. Others use fittings that bolt into concrete for considerable depth, and in the best cases anchors have been cast in during building construction of a size that could probably support a small car .


    The same is true of baskets and cable trays - I have (gingerly) walked, well shimmied,  my way across some that were holding up some very large SWA, having convinced myself my weight was but a small addition, and they did not even flex.  (I was younger ...) Other places I have looked up and shaken my head in wonder that things  are actually staying up.


    So, if there is to be a comment in the report, and perhaps their should be,  it needs to be about the suitability of that particular ceiling, rather than a general statement, or maybe a recommendation that someone better placed to do so inspects and makes a judgement.

    As per Andy's point, there may be a BS no. for installing ceilings, but I reckon most installers do not read it very often,or maybe ever, and rather like the example of unistrut, a decision based on how much it moves and what it is attached to is needed.
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    There are suspended ceilings and suspended ceilings - The sort that wobble and look like they may collapse in a strong wind are probably a hazard in an emergency,  if there are network cables or not, some folks idea of a fixing for a suspension wire seems to be a few screws and a plastic plugs as far apart as possible. Others use fittings that bolt into concrete for considerable depth, and in the best cases anchors have been cast in during building construction of a size that could probably support a small car .


    The same is true of baskets and cable trays - I have (gingerly) walked, well shimmied,  my way across some that were holding up some very large SWA, having convinced myself my weight was but a small addition, and they did not even flex.  (I was younger ...) Other places I have looked up and shaken my head in wonder that things  are actually staying up.


    So, if there is to be a comment in the report, and perhaps their should be,  it needs to be about the suitability of that particular ceiling, rather than a general statement, or maybe a recommendation that someone better placed to do so inspects and makes a judgement.

    As per Andy's point, there may be a BS no. for installing ceilings, but I reckon most installers do not read it very often,or maybe ever, and rather like the example of unistrut, a decision based on how much it moves and what it is attached to is needed.
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