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Class II with Chassis earth bond?

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The floating output of a Class II product, if measured to Earth may present a voltage of 80-100V AC, The reason is that there is a small capacitance connected between the output side (low voltage output) and the input side (mains) of a switch mode power supply from the safety approved Y-capacitors.

The limits for this leakage current is internationally set to safe values for humans (<250uA). The Voltage is therefore regarded safe to use, and expected.


My preference in such situations therefore to isolate the electrical parts from any user accessible metal parts, to prevent  users noticing a tingle when touching them.


My questions relates to using a bond from the accessible metal parts to a safety earth instead.


1) The earth is not required for safety, only comfort but could it affect leakage current?


2) The application is a pre-existing installation, an LED strip powered from a class 2 supply with the led tape mounted to a metal extrusion which itself is mounted to a metal container. If the extrusion were to be earthed to the metal enclosure, would the assembly then be treated as class I or remain class II ? 


3) Which standard(s) should I be referring to find these answers.



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    Thank you for the detailed replies.

    Firstly I believe the -ve contact of the LED strip is coming into contact with the metal extrusion to which it was mounted, causing the tingling affect.

    I believe PELV (“an extra-low voltage system which is not electrically separated from Earth but which otherwise satisfies all the requirements for SELV”) if a bond to Earth is added to the extrusion.

    This is muddied however by compliance of the LED driver in the existing installation:

    The used constant Voltage LED Driver’s (MW LPV-100-24) data sheet previously specified EN60950-1, but now shows EN62368-1 approved (updated 04/03/2020), but does not explicitly state SELV.

    I would have assumed SELV by virtue of the 60950-1 in the past, but am not sure I can say the same for EN62368-1 going forward

    That said, the design is old. The declaration of conformity was signed Dec 2019, so components and assemblies that complied with EN60950 were still acceptable and could be used as part of equipment certified to EN 62368-1 without design change.  The block diagram on datasheet still shows magnetic and opto isolation between input and output. So it is likely that product is SELV

    In a new installation the simplest solution would be to insulate the LED strips or specify a known SELV supply.

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    Thank you for the detailed replies.

    Firstly I believe the -ve contact of the LED strip is coming into contact with the metal extrusion to which it was mounted, causing the tingling affect.

    I believe PELV (“an extra-low voltage system which is not electrically separated from Earth but which otherwise satisfies all the requirements for SELV”) if a bond to Earth is added to the extrusion.

    This is muddied however by compliance of the LED driver in the existing installation:

    The used constant Voltage LED Driver’s (MW LPV-100-24) data sheet previously specified EN60950-1, but now shows EN62368-1 approved (updated 04/03/2020), but does not explicitly state SELV.

    I would have assumed SELV by virtue of the 60950-1 in the past, but am not sure I can say the same for EN62368-1 going forward

    That said, the design is old. The declaration of conformity was signed Dec 2019, so components and assemblies that complied with EN60950 were still acceptable and could be used as part of equipment certified to EN 62368-1 without design change.  The block diagram on datasheet still shows magnetic and opto isolation between input and output. So it is likely that product is SELV

    In a new installation the simplest solution would be to insulate the LED strips or specify a known SELV supply.

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