Landlord electrical inspections from July!

I watched the video in part and saw quite a few errors being put forward as fact.


The usual misconception of "the regs. are not retrospective and if it was compliant then it must be safe now". I have a couple of issues with that statement, one it probably was not compliant at the time and 2. How far do you go back in the history of the wiring regulations?. See Note 2 to Regulation 651.2 and read it very carefully.


I also saw R1 +R2 testing, what does that prove and has the presenter read GN3.

 

An installation, including PRS, does not have to fully comply with the 18th Edition, but it does have to meet the test set out in Regulation 651.1 ie ""in order to determine, so far as reasonably practicable, whether the installation is in a satisfactory condition for continued service". I have seen a letter from MHCLG confirming that in respect of the PRS scheme.


The inspection and test outcomes should record all non-compliances  with the current edition of BS 7671 "which may give rise to danger" and damage, defects or dangerous conditions". Note there is no requirement to record C3 non-compliances. Appendix 6 (Informative so not a Regulation) introduces this concept.


Now the tricky bit, the inspector his/her engineering judgment needs to Code the non-compliances and defects. There are various publications that give guidance to help the inspector but it is his/her assessment that he/she could be asked to justify at some later date.


You do not have to be a member of a competent person scheme to do PRS EICRs, although the 2 competent person electrical schemes would like you and the public to think otherwise, but you do need to be qualified and competent holding an 18th Edition Qualification and a Periodic Inspection and Testing Qualification and insurance.


So here is a little test for you, how would you Code these items that were compliant at the time of installation?


1.Using a public utility water pipe as a means of earthing? Compliant in 13th Edition.

2. No RCD protection for a 230V socket that could supply portable equipment outside? Compliant 14th Edition.

3. A bedroom with a show cubical with a 230V socket 2.5m from the shower? Compliant with the 15th edition.

4. A surface run wiring system on a ceiling without metalic support? Compliant with the 16th Edition.

5. An electric vehicle charging point connected to a PME earthing system without one of the special provisions for neutral. Compliant with 17th Edition.

 

I watched the video in part and saw quite a few errors being put forward as fact.


The usual misconception of "the regs. are not retrospective and if it was compliant then it must be safe now". I have a couple of issues with that statement, one it probably was not compliant at the time and 2. How far do you go back in the history of the wiring regulations?. See Note 2 to Regulation 651.2 and read it very carefully.


I also saw R1 +R2 testing, what does that prove and has the presenter read GN3.

 

An installation, including PRS, does not have to fully comply with the 18th Edition, but it does have to meet the test set out in Regulation 651.1 ie ""in order to determine, so far as reasonably practicable, whether the installation is in a satisfactory condition for continued service". I have seen a letter from MHCLG confirming that in respect of the PRS scheme.


The inspection and test outcomes should record all non-compliances  with the current edition of BS 7671 "which may give rise to danger" and damage, defects or dangerous conditions". Note there is no requirement to record C3 non-compliances. Appendix 6 (Informative so not a Regulation) introduces this concept.


Now the tricky bit, the inspector his/her engineering judgment needs to Code the non-compliances and defects. There are various publications that give guidance to help the inspector but it is his/her assessment that he/she could be asked to justify at some later date.


You do not have to be a member of a competent person scheme to do PRS EICRs, although the 2 competent person electrical schemes would like you and the public to think otherwise, but you do need to be qualified and competent holding an 18th Edition Qualification and a Periodic Inspection and Testing Qualification and insurance.


So here is a little test for you, how would you Code these items that were compliant at the time of installation?


1.Using a public utility water pipe as a means of earthing? Compliant in 13th Edition.

2. No RCD protection for a 230V socket that could supply portable equipment outside? Compliant 14th Edition.

3. A bedroom with a show cubical with a 230V socket 2.5m from the shower? Compliant with the 15th edition.

4. A surface run wiring system on a ceiling without metalic support? Compliant with the 16th Edition.

5. An electric vehicle charging point connected to a PME earthing system without one of the special provisions for neutral. Compliant with 17th Edition.