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Mixed manufacturer devices in din rail enclosure.What code?

Have found out a catering company,I deal with fit servery counters in supermarkets and use Schnieder din rail

enclosures,3 pole main switch, 3 phase bus bar,and a different brand of mcb/rcbo.I assume this is wrong and wondered

what code it could attract on a condition report?If I constucted the unit using all Schnieder parts,would the unit still

have to be type tested by others?

                                              Regards,

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  • I did an EICR yesterday for a house purchaser, the vendor was at home and enquired what the long green wire is for, as in my wander lead. I explained that in a house like his with metal faced fittings and lots of metal light fittings it is the quickest and easiest way of ensuring things that need to be earthed are.


    The range cooker was checked by dabbing the probe onto the screw of the wall mounted switch and the appliance itself, the shower had to have its cover removed. 


    The kitchen socket ring did not have continuity on the CPC, the wander lead narrowed the search to a couple of fittings with the CPC connected at one end in the CU, the last one to give a reading and the first that didn’t.


    I am a firm believer that all EICRs should be carried out using a long wander lead to check earth continuities, allowing towel rails and the like to be easily checked. I know the frying range in the chip shop is earthed, but didn’t delve to deeply, the cable to it is adequate and so is the protection to that cable, also it is adequately earthed. But I didn’t check the internal wiring to the heat lamps that keep the fish, sausages, savoie's and pies warm as that really has to be beyond an EICR.


    Hertzal needs to have a word with Schneider, I can’t see an issue in making up a board using their components, but some devices for controlling catering equipment may not be available from them if it’s particularly specialist or supplied as a kit as part of an interlocking system or the like.


    As an aside, I stopped at a roadside cafe in a cabin in a lay-by on Paul Sykrmes’ patch last year and whilst I was waiting for my bacon butty to be cooked they asked if I could do them an EICR for their licence, I declined as it was a long way from home and they should be able to get someone local to do it at a much more reasonable price, he guy laughed and said there’s only three people in Wales who will do LPG gas safety checks for mobile catering units in Wales and he was struggling to find an electrician. At this point you realise that there’s not many people actually doing work on mobile catering and other catering equipment. Here in Worcester there was one guy who was gas and electric registered, he did all the frying ranges in the local fish and chip shops, when he died at a young age they were all struggling to get certification for their equipment.


     Andy Betteridge 


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  • I did an EICR yesterday for a house purchaser, the vendor was at home and enquired what the long green wire is for, as in my wander lead. I explained that in a house like his with metal faced fittings and lots of metal light fittings it is the quickest and easiest way of ensuring things that need to be earthed are.


    The range cooker was checked by dabbing the probe onto the screw of the wall mounted switch and the appliance itself, the shower had to have its cover removed. 


    The kitchen socket ring did not have continuity on the CPC, the wander lead narrowed the search to a couple of fittings with the CPC connected at one end in the CU, the last one to give a reading and the first that didn’t.


    I am a firm believer that all EICRs should be carried out using a long wander lead to check earth continuities, allowing towel rails and the like to be easily checked. I know the frying range in the chip shop is earthed, but didn’t delve to deeply, the cable to it is adequate and so is the protection to that cable, also it is adequately earthed. But I didn’t check the internal wiring to the heat lamps that keep the fish, sausages, savoie's and pies warm as that really has to be beyond an EICR.


    Hertzal needs to have a word with Schneider, I can’t see an issue in making up a board using their components, but some devices for controlling catering equipment may not be available from them if it’s particularly specialist or supplied as a kit as part of an interlocking system or the like.


    As an aside, I stopped at a roadside cafe in a cabin in a lay-by on Paul Sykrmes’ patch last year and whilst I was waiting for my bacon butty to be cooked they asked if I could do them an EICR for their licence, I declined as it was a long way from home and they should be able to get someone local to do it at a much more reasonable price, he guy laughed and said there’s only three people in Wales who will do LPG gas safety checks for mobile catering units in Wales and he was struggling to find an electrician. At this point you realise that there’s not many people actually doing work on mobile catering and other catering equipment. Here in Worcester there was one guy who was gas and electric registered, he did all the frying ranges in the local fish and chip shops, when he died at a young age they were all struggling to get certification for their equipment.


     Andy Betteridge 


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