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Maximum sustained current perrmitted from 13 amp plug ?

This sounds an overly simplistic question, and the obvious answer is of course 13 amps. There is a clue in the name you know.


However in the case of a simple resistive load, the current will increase at a higher supply voltage. So at what voltage is the current measured for approval purposes ?

At 230 volts, the nominal or declared voltage ?

At 240 volts, the average voltage actually supplied most of the time in most places ?

Or at 253 volts, the maximum permitted. Or even at 256 volts the maximum achieved in an outbuilding with a bit of voltage rise due to grid tied PV on the roof.


The question has arisen due to a number of brand new "fast boiling" domestic electric kettles of reputable make failing a third party  PAT test due to "excessive current"


I repeated the test with my PAT tester and achieved a similar result, FAIL  in the premises in which they are to be used, but "pass" if tested elsewhere.

Tests with a variac and calibrated ammeter showed that a cold kettle on a 250 volt supply uses nearly 14 amps. just under 13 amps at 230 volts, both figures declining a little as the water starts to heat.

Had I done the original testing, I would have been inclined to use a little common sense and discretion and to pass an appliance that uses less than 10% overcurrent for a few minutes.

I would not pass an appliance such as a space heater that used even a slight overcurrent for hours at a time.


Wondered what others think.


And whilst we are on the subject, what about large portable air conditioners ? Available to hire fitted with 13 amp plugs, they appear to be a constant wattage load and use nearly 15 amps if the supply voltage is very low, and almost exactly 13 amps at 240 volts.
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  • AJJewsbury:

    Similarly there are margins built into overcurrent protective devices - e.g. an MCB shouldn't trip when carrying current 13% above its rating (at least not for conventional time - usually an hour), Likewise cables would be expected to carry those sorts of currents above their ratings for such periods without significant damage (otherwise our whole approach to overload protection - In ≤ Iz falls apart). So it would be logical for the same to apply to accessories such as plugs and sockets (unless their product standards say otherwise).


    On that basis, we would ignore BS1363 and go by the characteristics of BS1362 fuses. If it doesn't blow the fuse, it must be safe! ?


    Incidentally, I have (moulded on) 13 A plugs which are rated at 3 A or 5 A.


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  • AJJewsbury:

    Similarly there are margins built into overcurrent protective devices - e.g. an MCB shouldn't trip when carrying current 13% above its rating (at least not for conventional time - usually an hour), Likewise cables would be expected to carry those sorts of currents above their ratings for such periods without significant damage (otherwise our whole approach to overload protection - In ≤ Iz falls apart). So it would be logical for the same to apply to accessories such as plugs and sockets (unless their product standards say otherwise).


    On that basis, we would ignore BS1363 and go by the characteristics of BS1362 fuses. If it doesn't blow the fuse, it must be safe! ?


    Incidentally, I have (moulded on) 13 A plugs which are rated at 3 A or 5 A.


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