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Maximum sustained current perrmitted from 13 amp plug ?

This sounds an overly simplistic question, and the obvious answer is of course 13 amps. There is a clue in the name you know.


However in the case of a simple resistive load, the current will increase at a higher supply voltage. So at what voltage is the current measured for approval purposes ?

At 230 volts, the nominal or declared voltage ?

At 240 volts, the average voltage actually supplied most of the time in most places ?

Or at 253 volts, the maximum permitted. Or even at 256 volts the maximum achieved in an outbuilding with a bit of voltage rise due to grid tied PV on the roof.


The question has arisen due to a number of brand new "fast boiling" domestic electric kettles of reputable make failing a third party  PAT test due to "excessive current"


I repeated the test with my PAT tester and achieved a similar result, FAIL  in the premises in which they are to be used, but "pass" if tested elsewhere.

Tests with a variac and calibrated ammeter showed that a cold kettle on a 250 volt supply uses nearly 14 amps. just under 13 amps at 230 volts, both figures declining a little as the water starts to heat.

Had I done the original testing, I would have been inclined to use a little common sense and discretion and to pass an appliance that uses less than 10% overcurrent for a few minutes.

I would not pass an appliance such as a space heater that used even a slight overcurrent for hours at a time.


Wondered what others think.


And whilst we are on the subject, what about large portable air conditioners ? Available to hire fitted with 13 amp plugs, they appear to be a constant wattage load and use nearly 15 amps if the supply voltage is very low, and almost exactly 13 amps at 240 volts.
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  • In the days when VOELCBs were common, and most non TT supplies had nothing at all, we had a shiny new scout HQ with a 30mA RCD for the lot.

    This was used for leader training, events so on a weekend course,  adults brought in their own shavers radios, rechargeable torches and all sorts.

    At that time a lot of kit was in circulation with the older red black green mains leads and people were far more in the habit of swapping plugs from round to square and vice versa,  most did this very well, but a few folk seemed to do their plug fitting in the half light using a nail file and bread knife or something.


    On more than one occasion, someone brought something in with the plug mis-wired with an  earth neutral swap, that 'worked OK at home'  that because the black wire was under the earth pin,. perhaps unsurprisingly disappointment when it all went dark, and there was denial from everyone that it could possibly be something that someone had brought in. Funniest like that was a red-green reversal, so the case was live and the load live to earth.

    If it really had worked at home, then there must have been further faults in his  home.

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  • In the days when VOELCBs were common, and most non TT supplies had nothing at all, we had a shiny new scout HQ with a 30mA RCD for the lot.

    This was used for leader training, events so on a weekend course,  adults brought in their own shavers radios, rechargeable torches and all sorts.

    At that time a lot of kit was in circulation with the older red black green mains leads and people were far more in the habit of swapping plugs from round to square and vice versa,  most did this very well, but a few folk seemed to do their plug fitting in the half light using a nail file and bread knife or something.


    On more than one occasion, someone brought something in with the plug mis-wired with an  earth neutral swap, that 'worked OK at home'  that because the black wire was under the earth pin,. perhaps unsurprisingly disappointment when it all went dark, and there was denial from everyone that it could possibly be something that someone had brought in. Funniest like that was a red-green reversal, so the case was live and the load live to earth.

    If it really had worked at home, then there must have been further faults in his  home.

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