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ARE WE THE MEAT IN THE SANDWICH?

John Peckham
I know I am old grumpy and cynical as my wife tells me that every day! 


However am I right in thinking that BS 7671 and LV installation design requirements are having to compensate for problems in the DNO supplies to building and at the other end poor quality appliances. It appears to me we are having to compensate for other people's failings.


For example having to compensate for DNOs not maintaining their supplies in good working order, I am thinking hear about PEN failures, although their is a statutory duty (ESQCR) to do so. At the other end poor quality appliances susceptible  to transients, counterfieght goods from the Far East and generally not fit for purpose e.g a certain make of fridge freezers, washing machines and tumble driers.


Surely us LV piggy in the middle has become the meat in the sandwich?


Discuss? 


JP


PS where has the smell checker function gone on this forum?
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    Sparkingchip:

    How many of your customers have had equipment wiped out by transients?


    Millions of consumers buy surge protected extension leads, but how many  have asked surge protection as part of their fixed installation.


    Again all the manufacturers advertise them to electricians in anticipation of the electricians selling them to the end users, instead of actually targeting the end users so they are asking the electricians to fit them. 


    All the supposed improvements to consumer units and protective devices end up having to be a hard sell by the electricians, because there is no customer awareness of what is recommended or required by the regulations, so no customer demand.


    Andy Betteridge 


    Not a customer, but I have had two heating programmers and one boiler overrun time fail in 3 years following DNO outages (£80 x 2 plus £240) so I have invested £50 in a type 3 surge suppressor on my central heating fused spur. It's only been on for a month though and hasn't been tested yet.


    regards, burn

     


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    Sparkingchip:

    How many of your customers have had equipment wiped out by transients?


    Millions of consumers buy surge protected extension leads, but how many  have asked surge protection as part of their fixed installation.


    Again all the manufacturers advertise them to electricians in anticipation of the electricians selling them to the end users, instead of actually targeting the end users so they are asking the electricians to fit them. 


    All the supposed improvements to consumer units and protective devices end up having to be a hard sell by the electricians, because there is no customer awareness of what is recommended or required by the regulations, so no customer demand.


    Andy Betteridge 


    Not a customer, but I have had two heating programmers and one boiler overrun time fail in 3 years following DNO outages (£80 x 2 plus £240) so I have invested £50 in a type 3 surge suppressor on my central heating fused spur. It's only been on for a month though and hasn't been tested yet.


    regards, burn

     


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