Landlord electrical safety certificate

davezawadi (David Stone):

Alcomax

The only way to give an EICR to a landlord, where it is necessary to be completely compliant with BS7671, is to have no limitations. If you say "I didn't inspect x, y or z because..., the installation may not be compliant, and therefore not meet the law as described. If I say "I did not check this circuit, or I couldn't inspect under the floor although I knew there was a junction box or....." you see it just goes on. Limitations should be few and simple with good reasons. I have seen EICRs where basically nothing useful was inspected or tested because of a string of reasons, even including "I could not inspect the CU because the cupboard was full of junk". So a quick visual of what could be seen and a satisfactory installation. Is that the standard which you think should be met, because if so I know a couple of dodgy landlords who would find you jolly useful!

What company you frequent is your own business.

"The only way to give an EICR to a landlord, where it is necessary to be completely compliant with BS7671, is to have no limitations. "


The above is nonsensical. The nearest scenario could possibly be a Regularisation for BC purposes, even then there would be agreed limitations.


I suggest you have a read of Guidance Note 3.


To be clear, "where it is necessary to be completely compliant with BS7671" is for new works and additions. Read into the new law what you will, but it is written in usual legal jargon expressly  to allow for the application of reasonableness.


The gist is that the Inspector has to know what they are doing and be able to back it up. Anyone doing remedial's afterwards has to do this Installation work fully compliant with BS7671, so an electrical installation certificate and/or minor works certificate for these works.


There seems to be a determination to sow seeds of doubts in the minds of electricians conducting EICR for rental. Would this be due to their being vested interests in making money out of  this fey "confusion"?

davezawadi (David Stone):

Alcomax

The only way to give an EICR to a landlord, where it is necessary to be completely compliant with BS7671, is to have no limitations. If you say "I didn't inspect x, y or z because..., the installation may not be compliant, and therefore not meet the law as described. If I say "I did not check this circuit, or I couldn't inspect under the floor although I knew there was a junction box or....." you see it just goes on. Limitations should be few and simple with good reasons. I have seen EICRs where basically nothing useful was inspected or tested because of a string of reasons, even including "I could not inspect the CU because the cupboard was full of junk". So a quick visual of what could be seen and a satisfactory installation. Is that the standard which you think should be met, because if so I know a couple of dodgy landlords who would find you jolly useful!

What company you frequent is your own business.

"The only way to give an EICR to a landlord, where it is necessary to be completely compliant with BS7671, is to have no limitations. "


The above is nonsensical. The nearest scenario could possibly be a Regularisation for BC purposes, even then there would be agreed limitations.


I suggest you have a read of Guidance Note 3.


To be clear, "where it is necessary to be completely compliant with BS7671" is for new works and additions. Read into the new law what you will, but it is written in usual legal jargon expressly  to allow for the application of reasonableness.


The gist is that the Inspector has to know what they are doing and be able to back it up. Anyone doing remedial's afterwards has to do this Installation work fully compliant with BS7671, so an electrical installation certificate and/or minor works certificate for these works.


There seems to be a determination to sow seeds of doubts in the minds of electricians conducting EICR for rental. Would this be due to their being vested interests in making money out of  this fey "confusion"?