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ABB MCCB and 5 seconds disconnection.

Hi all,

Looking for a bit of clarification on disconnection times here. I have information on an ABB Mccb that has been listed as failing on maz zs.

The max zs referenced for the unit is 0.07 ( 250a TMD TP set at maximum) the measured zs is 0.08, however, the max Zs is listed for 0.4 and 5 seconds.

Looking at the time current curve on the mccb once you hit 3.5.times 250a you are in the thermal tripping zone of the mccb. Using the curves software from ABB it indicates a 5 second disconnection can be achieved with 1.66ka.


How do I work this out? is the MaxZs listed as the same for both disconnection times because the only way to ensure a 5sec disconnection is to have an instantaneous trip?
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  • Hi Dave,

    I agree we could make a more accurate meter, (oddly there is a ten digit HP one flickering away on the bench beside me, but given the tests I am doing I only write down the first 3 or 4, as the others just fruit machine)  but as we are agreed, in this case it ends up being a futile test rather like  measuring walnuts with a micrometer - a different very precise 'right' answer every time.  Meanwhile, in the interests of a trade off of battery current and cost of instrument, the ones in the MFTs are dual slope or SAR designs (the SAR ones being capacitor balance types that are a part of the microcontroller chip itself, which is another design compromise ), and there is no great need of temperature compensation, or 4 wire probing, or all the things you would need to do to get the next place figures to mean something.
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  • Hi Dave,

    I agree we could make a more accurate meter, (oddly there is a ten digit HP one flickering away on the bench beside me, but given the tests I am doing I only write down the first 3 or 4, as the others just fruit machine)  but as we are agreed, in this case it ends up being a futile test rather like  measuring walnuts with a micrometer - a different very precise 'right' answer every time.  Meanwhile, in the interests of a trade off of battery current and cost of instrument, the ones in the MFTs are dual slope or SAR designs (the SAR ones being capacitor balance types that are a part of the microcontroller chip itself, which is another design compromise ), and there is no great need of temperature compensation, or 4 wire probing, or all the things you would need to do to get the next place figures to mean something.
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