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EICR Codes help for new Landlord.

Former Community Member
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Hi. I hope you are all well and keeping busy in these strange times. I look after a ladies house who has had to move back abroad and now needs to let the property out and so she has had an EICR done which has come back with saying it needs a total rewire for few grand. 


What I want to know is can I ask info on here about the codes he has put and if reasonable.


I don't won't to upset anyone by second guessing another trades persons work but I would like an idea if this is right or not?


Thanks you


Regards Lee
  • Yes, of course. I feel sure that this will become a reasonably common event with the new legislation.


    Would you like to scan Section K of the EICR - keeping it anonymous naturally?
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    Hi Chris. Wow, thanks for 5he quick response. 


    When you say scan section K, will the upload the whole certificate on here for all to see without the contractors name etc?


    Regards Lee
  • I cannot see any harm in that. It has been done previously.
  • Just make sure the sensitive details are retracted properly - sticking black boxes over them in a pdf editor for example is easily circumvented!

      - Andy.
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    I did attach it earlier but it seems to have been missed.
  • you will need to up load it to the server for the forum as a picture (the second icon in from the left, looks like a patient temperature graph) or you may link to a file on an external website,  - third icon in, looks a bit like the sign of four in Hindi (char) but rotated  (don't ask why, the software types like to do funny things, and I am often told I see the world in a funny way, it may seem sensible to you..)


    Where it asks for a URL,  you can open an upload tab to explore your own computer and load the file.

    Please do cover anything that identifies addresses and names - a general conversation about codes for certain types of condition is fair game, but someone litigious may decide it is defamation if they are identified.
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    Thanks. Looks like it might have worked this time.


    Thanks all.


    I hope that is the correct information and not too much reveiled. If it is revealing anything about the engineer then let me know ASAP please so I can take it down.


    Regards Le3
  • I think that has come out OK, apart from a lot of zooming in and out to read it.

    Some questions to set the scene correctly

    No CPC ("earth wire") in the lights suggests a late 1960s installation or earlier - is that true ?

    No earth to gas pipes also suggest an old installation, as it has been a requirement for a long time.

    Have there been many additions over the years?

    I presume it is an old hot wire type fuse board, rather than circuit breakers?

    When was it last inspected, and what did that report say, if you have it available ?

    Edit

    - not until we have rather more info is it sensible to decide how much really needs re-wiring

    or if a bit of a refresh of parts of the installation is all that is needed.


  • The picture looks fine.

    The contents are probably not, and a complete rewire may not be the answer. I wonder if you have any idea when the house was wired, the installation is probably 55 years old at least, and is showing its age. In my opinion (not having examined it of course) some of these codes of C2 are probably excessive, for example, bare CPCs inside a socket or switch box and Nos. 13 and 14. It is fairly typical of a less experienced EICR, and the rewire example is also common. This does not mean that rewiring may be a bad idea, but it has considerable downsides. The first is that a proper job is liable to upset the decorations considerably, and will need all the floorcoverings lifted. If switch drops have conduit in the walls it might not be too bad, but putting the sockets at the advised height now, means cutting into the walls at every point. The upside is that you could add more sockets, and a new consumer unit with RCDs and MCBs would probably improve safety and convenience somewhat. I note that no comment is made about the cable type, is it PVC with red and black conductors in an outside sheath or something else? The problem if the property is to be rented is that you need a satisfactory EICR, and some of those items may be tricky to correct. I wonder where the property is in the country? If 13 is true, then serious attention is needed and this should probably be a C1 if significantly above the maximum figure.


    Your problem may too be the cost, it depends on your location and the exact size, how many sockets etc, but £3-4,000 is likely for a simple rewire to the latest standards.


    Regards

    David CEng.