EICR Codes help for new Landlord.

I left that bit out John, from the point of view of general harmony! I would like answers to my questions though.

Looks like the usual nonsense from a person not competent to carry out a periodic inspection and test.

The electrical installation almost certainly needs upgrading, what, if anything is salvageable is possibly open to discussion.


Andy B.

Item 10 is the only observation correctly referenced, have a look at it and you will see what I mean.


That observation suggests there may be one or more electrical fittings that need replacing.


Andy B.

The picture looks fine, but what is on it does not.


I use NAPIT Desktop for EICRs.


When you work through the schedule of inspections as you code items it brings up a dialogue box containing a description of the issue and references to regulations which if you accept is added to the observations sheet, then you can edit the observation sheet to make it specific to the installation you are testing and inspecting.


So when reading the observations on that sheet you have shown in the photograph I can see that there is not a reference number telling you which item on the schedule of inspections the observation is describing or     which Wiring Regulation is applicable.


Some of the observations look highly dubious, can you add photos of the schedule of inspections so we can see if we can spot what has been observed by comparing the schedule with the observation.


Andy B.

The picture looks fine.

The contents are probably not, and a complete rewire may not be the answer. I wonder if you have any idea when the house was wired, the installation is probably 55 years old at least, and is showing its age. In my opinion (not having examined it of course) some of these codes of C2 are probably excessive, for example, bare CPCs inside a socket or switch box and Nos. 13 and 14. It is fairly typical of a less experienced EICR, and the rewire example is also common. This does not mean that rewiring may be a bad idea, but it has considerable downsides. The first is that a proper job is liable to upset the decorations considerably, and will need all the floorcoverings lifted. If switch drops have conduit in the walls it might not be too bad, but putting the sockets at the advised height now, means cutting into the walls at every point. The upside is that you could add more sockets, and a new consumer unit with RCDs and MCBs would probably improve safety and convenience somewhat. I note that no comment is made about the cable type, is it PVC with red and black conductors in an outside sheath or something else? The problem if the property is to be rented is that you need a satisfactory EICR, and some of those items may be tricky to correct. I wonder where the property is in the country? If 13 is true, then serious attention is needed and this should probably be a C1 if significantly above the maximum figure.


Your problem may too be the cost, it depends on your location and the exact size, how many sockets etc, but £3-4,000 is likely for a simple rewire to the latest standards.


Regards

David CEng.

I think that has come out OK, apart from a lot of zooming in and out to read it.

Some questions to set the scene correctly

No CPC ("earth wire") in the lights suggests a late 1960s installation or earlier - is that true ?

No earth to gas pipes also suggest an old installation, as it has been a requirement for a long time.

Have there been many additions over the years?

I presume it is an old hot wire type fuse board, rather than circuit breakers?

When was it last inspected, and what did that report say, if you have it available ?

Edit

- not until we have rather more info is it sensible to decide how much really needs re-wiring

or if a bit of a refresh of parts of the installation is all that is needed.

Thanks. Looks like it might have worked this time.


Thanks all.


I hope that is the correct information and not too much reveiled. If it is revealing anything about the engineer then let me know ASAP please so I can take it down.


Regards Le3