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AMD 2 ALL SOCKETS UP TO 32A TO HAVE 30mA RCDs

I have not seen on this forum much about the mandating 30mA RCD protection for all sockets with the removal of the Risk Assessment exception in the AMD2 DPC. 


Not to many objections on the DPC website.


Any views?
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  • I think offices - desks in particular - are an environment that receives little added benefit from RCD protection to the sockets;


    In general you cant leave the equipotential zone from your desk?

    In General there's not a load of electrically dangerous equipment being plugged in surely that cant be taken care of by the plug or circuit fuse? 

    In general there's probably not a lot of class one equipment being plugged into the common desk space? 

    Most offices are run by someone with some idea of health and safety and the general desk worker is not very likely to DIY the electrics in his/her environment?

    PA Testing is more common in most offices.

    Correctly designed circuits on an MCB should be sufficient surely?

    If you had RCD protection for the common tea point/kitchen and the designated cleaning sockets - surely you've minimised the main risk areas, considered additional safety for the end users and given a very good design to cost ratio? (obviously the "best" design would be one that had an individual RCD for every socket. 


    But most of all given all of the above, the additional costs involved to RCD protect every socket in the office environment is just eye watering exorbitant. (This is what I do for a living so I'm not complaining when the maintenance manager asks me to install one gazillion RCD sockets or RCD tap off leads to every single desk - as putting the RCD in the riser cupboard where all of the underfloor bus bars are supplied from is a bad design - but this does get done a heck of a lot too. 


    I remain unconvinced by the absolute need to RCD protect everything; but I'm a cynical guy; about RCDs, AFDDs and blanket surge protection............umteen years without all of that was fine, (specifically in the office environment here) but now its virtually mandatory because its a better design and better safety factor. Catch 22 really. Cost vs safety. Obviously there are higher risk areas where all of the above should be absolutely mandatory; they all have their place in the electrical environment for sure. 


    Kind Regards

    Tatty.
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  • I think offices - desks in particular - are an environment that receives little added benefit from RCD protection to the sockets;


    In general you cant leave the equipotential zone from your desk?

    In General there's not a load of electrically dangerous equipment being plugged in surely that cant be taken care of by the plug or circuit fuse? 

    In general there's probably not a lot of class one equipment being plugged into the common desk space? 

    Most offices are run by someone with some idea of health and safety and the general desk worker is not very likely to DIY the electrics in his/her environment?

    PA Testing is more common in most offices.

    Correctly designed circuits on an MCB should be sufficient surely?

    If you had RCD protection for the common tea point/kitchen and the designated cleaning sockets - surely you've minimised the main risk areas, considered additional safety for the end users and given a very good design to cost ratio? (obviously the "best" design would be one that had an individual RCD for every socket. 


    But most of all given all of the above, the additional costs involved to RCD protect every socket in the office environment is just eye watering exorbitant. (This is what I do for a living so I'm not complaining when the maintenance manager asks me to install one gazillion RCD sockets or RCD tap off leads to every single desk - as putting the RCD in the riser cupboard where all of the underfloor bus bars are supplied from is a bad design - but this does get done a heck of a lot too. 


    I remain unconvinced by the absolute need to RCD protect everything; but I'm a cynical guy; about RCDs, AFDDs and blanket surge protection............umteen years without all of that was fine, (specifically in the office environment here) but now its virtually mandatory because its a better design and better safety factor. Catch 22 really. Cost vs safety. Obviously there are higher risk areas where all of the above should be absolutely mandatory; they all have their place in the electrical environment for sure. 


    Kind Regards

    Tatty.
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