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Incompetent rental management company/Eicr

UKPN
I appreciate there are lots of Eicr queries going on at the moment but they primarily focus on the "inspector" My topic is something that has arisen today in my family.


My daughter has decided to "let out" her existing property, and will be moving into a new home. She has engaged a rental management agent, who, to cut a long story short has given her a list of required certificates to present. Gas safe, no problem. She phoned me today and said she was required to present an Eicr cert. I said I dont believe you need one, my daughter renovated the house under three years ago and I noted the electrical contractor was a well known, reputable, long established local firm. (NICEIC) so would have and has issued an EIC cert. My daughter says the agent, who is a high end company insisted she and her husband have this done.


So I looked on the Government website and it took just 60 seconds to establish that a new or rewired property with an EIC, issued in the last five years can be used and a copy given to the council and if necessary to a tenant on this new scheme.


Why hasnt the management company tumbled this? If my daughter hadnt rung me she would have had to pay out £100s for an unnecessary form, and looking by the bogus reports cropping up on this forum been exposed to unnecessary work.


I am going to see the EIC on Sunday just in case there are any errors. Unlikely.


People are being taken for fools.


I cant wait to speak to the rental agent. 


Regards UKPN


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    jbrameld:

    The actual legislation here is definitely poorly drafted as David S says.  This states that the 'electrical safety standards' must be met - and these are defined as the 18th Edition regs.  The law doesn't say that a 'Satisfactory' EICR is perfectly acceptable, although the guidance does imply this is the case.


    A rigid interpretation of the law would would see a huge surge (no pun intended) in demand for SPDs and AFDDs for example, and indeed a requirement for every rental property to be updated to whatever the latest incarnation of the wiring regulations is every 5 years in order to pass.  That's probably not what they meant, but it's what it says.....


    I have a rental property that was re-wired when re-furbished when I bought it it in 2004 - just before Part P came in.  It hasn't been messed around with at all in that time, but it has a plastic CU (as they were 'safer' then....) noyt under the stairs but in a riser cupboard witha door in the hallway so am I to expect a requirement for a new CU to arise?


    The principle of a regular inspection is fine, but it should be clear that a 'Satisfactory' EICR is indeed that.....


    Best not get started again on vested interests/competence of inspectors


    The law explicitly requires compliance with the 18th edition.


    Until the law is changed, landlords can ignore the 19th edition when it's published.  And also to comply with the law, any rental properties wired to the 19th edition would also have to be backwards compliant with the 18th.


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    jbrameld:

    The actual legislation here is definitely poorly drafted as David S says.  This states that the 'electrical safety standards' must be met - and these are defined as the 18th Edition regs.  The law doesn't say that a 'Satisfactory' EICR is perfectly acceptable, although the guidance does imply this is the case.


    A rigid interpretation of the law would would see a huge surge (no pun intended) in demand for SPDs and AFDDs for example, and indeed a requirement for every rental property to be updated to whatever the latest incarnation of the wiring regulations is every 5 years in order to pass.  That's probably not what they meant, but it's what it says.....


    I have a rental property that was re-wired when re-furbished when I bought it it in 2004 - just before Part P came in.  It hasn't been messed around with at all in that time, but it has a plastic CU (as they were 'safer' then....) noyt under the stairs but in a riser cupboard witha door in the hallway so am I to expect a requirement for a new CU to arise?


    The principle of a regular inspection is fine, but it should be clear that a 'Satisfactory' EICR is indeed that.....


    Best not get started again on vested interests/competence of inspectors


    The law explicitly requires compliance with the 18th edition.


    Until the law is changed, landlords can ignore the 19th edition when it's published.  And also to comply with the law, any rental properties wired to the 19th edition would also have to be backwards compliant with the 18th.


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