Bets solution to resolve hole behind ceiling light

perspicacious:
526.5 (iii)


Are you telling us that the sides of the floor joists and underside of the floor boards/sheet and rest of the floor void is non combustible and you'd be happy lifting a floorboard on an EICR and seeing connector blocks in mid air so as to speak and giving "satisfactory" ?


BOD

No. Usually I am able to locate all wiring connections in the base of luminaires between the base and plasterboard ceiling. I don't usually lift floor boards when undertaking  inspection and testing before issuing an E.I.C.R. (651.2).  My observation about seeing many chock block joints stuffed up in the ceiling void above luminaires is a statement not an approval by me.


You would normally have to apply a blow lamp flame for some time to get wooden ceiling joists to catch fire. I have seen plumbers using a torch flame right next to a wooden joist and it did not catch fire.


Years ago I would climb into dirty, dusty loft spaces to install a new junction box to run just a single heat resistant flex down to a ceiling light below. Back then the lamps (bulbs) ran hot. Downstairs was a bit of a problem and I was forced to hide joints above the light bases under the plasterboard. If there were already choc block joints there I would carefully re-make them off, cover them individually in good quality insulation tape and bung 'em up through the hole in the ceiling. I would not enlarge the hole. I had no trouble at all with that method.......but that was back then. Have you ever come across a new luminaire with a cable entry hole that is too small for all of the three plate lighting cables at a point?


Z.

 

perspicacious:
526.5 (iii)


Are you telling us that the sides of the floor joists and underside of the floor boards/sheet and rest of the floor void is non combustible and you'd be happy lifting a floorboard on an EICR and seeing connector blocks in mid air so as to speak and giving "satisfactory" ?


BOD

No. Usually I am able to locate all wiring connections in the base of luminaires between the base and plasterboard ceiling. I don't usually lift floor boards when undertaking  inspection and testing before issuing an E.I.C.R. (651.2).  My observation about seeing many chock block joints stuffed up in the ceiling void above luminaires is a statement not an approval by me.


You would normally have to apply a blow lamp flame for some time to get wooden ceiling joists to catch fire. I have seen plumbers using a torch flame right next to a wooden joist and it did not catch fire.


Years ago I would climb into dirty, dusty loft spaces to install a new junction box to run just a single heat resistant flex down to a ceiling light below. Back then the lamps (bulbs) ran hot. Downstairs was a bit of a problem and I was forced to hide joints above the light bases under the plasterboard. If there were already choc block joints there I would carefully re-make them off, cover them individually in good quality insulation tape and bung 'em up through the hole in the ceiling. I would not enlarge the hole. I had no trouble at all with that method.......but that was back then. Have you ever come across a new luminaire with a cable entry hole that is too small for all of the three plate lighting cables at a point?


Z.