Recessed Ceiling Lights.

I try to avoid them and if I an asked to work on them I explain to the customer I may damage the ceiling if I touch them and remedial work is extra.


Once I have removed them trying to get them to fit again flat to the ceiling is often a problem. Others have a stupid method of locating the bulb so it moves when putting it back so you have to start all over again. 


I have fitted the plates to enable a a small downlight to fit the old very large downlighter holes after another electrician said it could not be done without re-plastering the ceiling. I did have to go into a low loft stuffed full of fibre glass which may have influenced the previous electrician. The customer was very happy with the result. 


Given the rate of failure, the difficulty of trying to retrofit them to avoid the joists and the massive power consumption, one customer had 20 50W fittings in their kitchen,  I have come to the conclusion their designer was a sadist.


On the I&T issue I don't touch them unless specifically asked but test the earthing with a wander lead. If they all have no earth I  assume they are double insulated.

I try to avoid them and if I an asked to work on them I explain to the customer I may damage the ceiling if I touch them and remedial work is extra.


Once I have removed them trying to get them to fit again flat to the ceiling is often a problem. Others have a stupid method of locating the bulb so it moves when putting it back so you have to start all over again. 


I have fitted the plates to enable a a small downlight to fit the old very large downlighter holes after another electrician said it could not be done without re-plastering the ceiling. I did have to go into a low loft stuffed full of fibre glass which may have influenced the previous electrician. The customer was very happy with the result. 


Given the rate of failure, the difficulty of trying to retrofit them to avoid the joists and the massive power consumption, one customer had 20 50W fittings in their kitchen,  I have come to the conclusion their designer was a sadist.


On the I&T issue I don't touch them unless specifically asked but test the earthing with a wander lead. If they all have no earth I  assume they are double insulated.