£30k fine for landlords who do not provide a valid EICR for their rental properties

ebee:

Sorry Zoom I do not agree.

Where a genuine F1 applies it could be something that is a C1 or a C2 lurking there and as such we`d condem.

However it could be a C3 or even no code at all.

Until it is investigated and therefore determined we must make it condemable. We can`t give it a pass (yet) or a fail (yet) we can only record a potential unsatisfactory as a (assumed) unstisfactory. Therefore F1 unstaisfactory

An F.I. means that we have not completed our job. It is a cop out, get out of jail free card. If we can not gain access to a locked room we report so.  We do not put F.I. and then condemn the installation. We can't report on don't knows. The report can't be completed until we do gain access to the locked room and its electrics.


The report is not complete until the work is finished. In this case the work of inspection and testing.


If the customer asks why an installation has "failed" he won't be happy because we say further investigation is required. He has a right  to say: "Well get on with it then".


Dave Stone would not disconnect a cable where it could not be identified as to its use or destination. Andy is concerned about a live unidentified cable perhaps with loose live ends, hidden under the floor, or in the loft sitting there ready to bite somebody such as a plumber.



Z.

ebee:

Sorry Zoom I do not agree.

Where a genuine F1 applies it could be something that is a C1 or a C2 lurking there and as such we`d condem.

However it could be a C3 or even no code at all.

Until it is investigated and therefore determined we must make it condemable. We can`t give it a pass (yet) or a fail (yet) we can only record a potential unsatisfactory as a (assumed) unstisfactory. Therefore F1 unstaisfactory

An F.I. means that we have not completed our job. It is a cop out, get out of jail free card. If we can not gain access to a locked room we report so.  We do not put F.I. and then condemn the installation. We can't report on don't knows. The report can't be completed until we do gain access to the locked room and its electrics.


The report is not complete until the work is finished. In this case the work of inspection and testing.


If the customer asks why an installation has "failed" he won't be happy because we say further investigation is required. He has a right  to say: "Well get on with it then".


Dave Stone would not disconnect a cable where it could not be identified as to its use or destination. Andy is concerned about a live unidentified cable perhaps with loose live ends, hidden under the floor, or in the loft sitting there ready to bite somebody such as a plumber.



Z.