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7671 for buttons

lyledunn
Once I would have shelled out gladly for any technical document that I felt my wee company would need. As a part-time college tutor I also had the luxury of free access to BS standards. Now it seems that I have an almost Shylock approach to such things. BS7671 is totally indispensable for me so digging for that £80 wasn’t too bad but compare that to the eye-watering £380 for BS 5839-1 2017! 

The difference between the 2013 version and the new 2017 version is really quite minimal. For small contractors doing two or three fire alarm installations per year the cost of updating to the new standard is really quite prohibitive. I guess if they have access to the 2013 version they will continue to comply almost by default.

The cost of these standards is far too high, more especially because they change so frequently.

BS 7671 is, by comparison, for buttons!

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    I too am in the same boat. The best bit is that often you can't tell whether a change is material or literally just a re-issue and update of references, or if the answer you're looking for is actually in the document you think it is, without forking out.


    I have, in the past, made solid use of the IET's subscription to BSI online at Savoy Place as none of the public libaries near me had access and it was cheaper and quicker to go to London for the purpose. And I sometimes have a list of things to look up in the back of my notebook on case I do have spare time after a meeting in the Big Smoke. But just as with local libraries you do have to show up in person and sadly it wasn't open due to Covid last time I checked... although the librarians were able to look up a data table for me! This is of course a members thing, but it's a useful benefit.

    Chris Pearson‍ I also agree with you and have occaisionally daydreamed about penning a letter to my MP to that effect (plus the benefit to the economy by jumpstarting the ability of smaller firms to compete and innovate). I rather suspect that with a token payment to avoid silliness, and a sliding scale for larger organisations, the adverse impact to BSI's revenue wouldn't actually be that much, as it'd be opening up access to people who would simply manage without, rely on second hand references or indeed various hooky versions available online...
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    I too am in the same boat. The best bit is that often you can't tell whether a change is material or literally just a re-issue and update of references, or if the answer you're looking for is actually in the document you think it is, without forking out.


    I have, in the past, made solid use of the IET's subscription to BSI online at Savoy Place as none of the public libaries near me had access and it was cheaper and quicker to go to London for the purpose. And I sometimes have a list of things to look up in the back of my notebook on case I do have spare time after a meeting in the Big Smoke. But just as with local libraries you do have to show up in person and sadly it wasn't open due to Covid last time I checked... although the librarians were able to look up a data table for me! This is of course a members thing, but it's a useful benefit.

    Chris Pearson‍ I also agree with you and have occaisionally daydreamed about penning a letter to my MP to that effect (plus the benefit to the economy by jumpstarting the ability of smaller firms to compete and innovate). I rather suspect that with a token payment to avoid silliness, and a sliding scale for larger organisations, the adverse impact to BSI's revenue wouldn't actually be that much, as it'd be opening up access to people who would simply manage without, rely on second hand references or indeed various hooky versions available online...
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