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Sparkplug HV standards

Hello,


Anyone know which standard covers sparkplugs, specifically protection against direct contact of the high voltage electrodes? 40,000V


I have an exposed sparkplug designed to ignite a flammable atmosphere such that the electrodes protrude outside its enclosure. This is in a restricted access area but i would still like to include a grill around the electrodes to prevent direct contact, but not sure what IP rating i need to comply.


BS EN 60204-11 states Ip4x, but again i'm not sure a sparkplug falls under HV power standards?? I'd hope to go with IP2x if i can to allow as much gas to engulf the spark plug.


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  • depending on the application you may find things like the standards for electric fences in public places are helpful. (bounding voltages and energies of 10kV and 10 joules per pulse from memory.) No insulation there. Personally I consider the effects of the jump reflex from 10J to be also hazardous indoors, and we use a 1J action limit in the facility at my place of work, such that above that safety measures must be taken or their absence carefully justified.


    Also in terms of not quite relevant standards, intended  for exposed voltages appearing on accessible surfaces like the connectors for domestic appliances like TVs and so on IEC 62368-1 defines permitted exposure limits ES1 that requires no safeguards for anyone, and ES2 that warrant at least  a single layer of protection for ordinary persons, and none for skilled or instructed. There is also a higher level ES3 that requires 2 levels of protection for ordinary persons or instructed persons, and 0 or 1 layer for a skilled person such as a repair technician.

    The lmits roughly lines up with the double fault to danger in BS7671 above ELV, but not perfectly.

    "ES1 and ES2, for any voltage up to the limit voltage, there is no

    limit for the current. Likewise for any current up to the limit current, there is no limit for the

    voltage. However, for ES1 and ES2, in no case can both the current limit and the voltage limit

    be exceeded. ES2 is an energy source where both the voltage and current exceed the limits

    for ES1, but do not exceed the limits for ES2. ES3 is any source where both the voltage limit

    and current limit exceed ES2."



    ES1 is current up to 2mA at any voltage or 60V at any current

    ES2 is the same but 25mA or 120V

    there are also pulse limits but they are complex.
    "Single pulse limits - Where the electrical energy source is a single pulse, the energy source is classified from both

    the voltage and the duration or from both the current and the duration. Values are given in

    Table 8 and Table 9. If the voltage exceeds the limit, then the current shall not exceed the

    limit. If the current exceeds the limit, the voltage shall not exceed the limit. Currents are

    measured according to 5.7. For repetitive pulses, see 5.2.2.5."



    More usefully for your ignition there are capacitor discharge limits as well
    Table 7 – Electrical energy source limits for a charged capacitor

    C(nF) ES1 Upeak(V)  ES2 Upeak(V)
    300 or greater 60 120

    170 75 150

    91 100 200

    61 125 250

    41 150 300

    28 200 400

    18 250 500

    12 350 700

    8,0 500 1 000

    4,0 1 000 2 000

    1,6 2 500 5 000

    0,8 5 000 10 000

    0,4 10 000 20 000

    0,2 20 000 40 000

    0,133 or less 25 000 50 000

    Linear interpolation may be used between the nearest two points.



    These do seem a bit low if you actually want to light something,






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  • depending on the application you may find things like the standards for electric fences in public places are helpful. (bounding voltages and energies of 10kV and 10 joules per pulse from memory.) No insulation there. Personally I consider the effects of the jump reflex from 10J to be also hazardous indoors, and we use a 1J action limit in the facility at my place of work, such that above that safety measures must be taken or their absence carefully justified.


    Also in terms of not quite relevant standards, intended  for exposed voltages appearing on accessible surfaces like the connectors for domestic appliances like TVs and so on IEC 62368-1 defines permitted exposure limits ES1 that requires no safeguards for anyone, and ES2 that warrant at least  a single layer of protection for ordinary persons, and none for skilled or instructed. There is also a higher level ES3 that requires 2 levels of protection for ordinary persons or instructed persons, and 0 or 1 layer for a skilled person such as a repair technician.

    The lmits roughly lines up with the double fault to danger in BS7671 above ELV, but not perfectly.

    "ES1 and ES2, for any voltage up to the limit voltage, there is no

    limit for the current. Likewise for any current up to the limit current, there is no limit for the

    voltage. However, for ES1 and ES2, in no case can both the current limit and the voltage limit

    be exceeded. ES2 is an energy source where both the voltage and current exceed the limits

    for ES1, but do not exceed the limits for ES2. ES3 is any source where both the voltage limit

    and current limit exceed ES2."



    ES1 is current up to 2mA at any voltage or 60V at any current

    ES2 is the same but 25mA or 120V

    there are also pulse limits but they are complex.
    "Single pulse limits - Where the electrical energy source is a single pulse, the energy source is classified from both

    the voltage and the duration or from both the current and the duration. Values are given in

    Table 8 and Table 9. If the voltage exceeds the limit, then the current shall not exceed the

    limit. If the current exceeds the limit, the voltage shall not exceed the limit. Currents are

    measured according to 5.7. For repetitive pulses, see 5.2.2.5."



    More usefully for your ignition there are capacitor discharge limits as well
    Table 7 – Electrical energy source limits for a charged capacitor

    C(nF) ES1 Upeak(V)  ES2 Upeak(V)
    300 or greater 60 120

    170 75 150

    91 100 200

    61 125 250

    41 150 300

    28 200 400

    18 250 500

    12 350 700

    8,0 500 1 000

    4,0 1 000 2 000

    1,6 2 500 5 000

    0,8 5 000 10 000

    0,4 10 000 20 000

    0,2 20 000 40 000

    0,133 or less 25 000 50 000

    Linear interpolation may be used between the nearest two points.



    These do seem a bit low if you actually want to light something,






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