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EICR failed missing trunking?

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Hi,



I’ve just had an EICR done last week, One item I do not understand and would need an electrician or someone to help please. the EICR report says “MISSING TRUNKING WITH WIRES NOT SUPPORTED C2 SHED.” The cable is clipped on the wood wall in the shed. There are no exposed wires. And the shed is not on escape routes. Does cable need to be in trunking in order to comply with the electrical wire regulation? Is the code 2 correct for this situation?  please see photo.1ff9527a633c65202618bef88f7b0919-original-shed.jpg



Thank you for help


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    The right hand end to the cable in the photo above looks cut off.  Evidence photos used for EICRs should really be as clear and unambiguous as possible.

    Legh

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    Nothing for the table lamp - it is a portable appliance and should be tested accordingly.


    Ceiling (or wall) batten fitting is an interesting one. It's too large to be IP2X. Must be a C1!!!
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    If it is an escape route or not has nothing to do with the requirements for securing cables, it is a general requirement that cables are secured and it covers all areas of the installation.


    Electricians do not code being scruffy and tatty, the requirement is that an installation has to be “good enough” it does not need to be excellent.


    That installation is not good enough.


    It is not possible to see the whole interior of the shed, if it is all that can be seen then it’s a Code 3, if there’s the risk of entanglement with cables running across the ceiling or doorway it’s a Code 2.


    It does beg the question why someone did not tidying it up before commissioning the EICR, because it’s a totally obvious issue that needs addressing? A box of metal cable clips from Screwfix and a hammer would have sorted it out.

    https://www.screwfix.com/p/schneider-electric-fire-rated-cable-clip-1-2-5mm-100-pack/767gv


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    I would firstly give the amateur one week wonder let loose courtesy of a questionable coding system the chance to do the right thing.

    This being an explanation of how a cable fixed to a wall with a bit hanging off the broken clip/s is potentially dangerous. 

    If that fails ask politely for an amended satisfactory report. If that fails point out you have been mis-sold a service and require details of his insurance company. If that fails tell him he will have an appointment at the small claims court. Where his experience, qualifications will be questioned and no doubt take a couple of seconds to detail. 

    There is a guy on here by all accounts asking for this kind of thing to put forward to improve the system. It wont work, the industry is stuck with it. In any event in the front of the "code of practice" is the famous disclaimer. So they will never be held liable.


    Good luck, and by the way, a decent electrician  would have pulled his hammer and a couple of clips out and solved the "issue." Probably tells what kind of muppet he is.


    Best regards, UKPN
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    It’s a bit like complaining that your car failed its MOT because a tail light needed replacing.


    Anyone can see that a tail light has failed on a car and anyone with a bit of sense would replace the tail light before taking the car for a MOT, would you start moaning that the car failed its MOT because of the MOT tester did not replace the faulty tail light bulb for you?


    The installation in the photo is not good enough and the person carrying out the inspection and testing is not there to do all the required repairs, but simply to report on the condition of the installation.


    I would not be surprised if the person ordering the EICR thought the shed electrical installation would not even be checked.


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    Keep with the programme fella, a tail light is a clear fail, and any decent fitter would as part of the service replace anyway. However, we are talking about a simple situation where it was not expected a fraudulent report would be provided by the level of idiot becoming commonplace in this industry


    Regards, UKPN
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    Our team of experienced mechanics carry out an independent check on your vehicle, but do not carry out any of the required repairs.

    https://www.wyreforestdc.gov.uk/the-depot/mots.aspx


    Any issues with that?
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    I am wondering how many old age pensioners and vulnerable people this "inspector("!!!!!"} has ripped off (so far) this week. So thick he cant see word will get round. Id be interested to see his qualifications/experience.Probably fill a postage stamp


    Regards, UKPN
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    UKPN:

    Keep with the programme fella, a tail light is a clear fail, and any decent fitter would as part of the service replace anyway. However, we are talking about a simple situation where it was not expected a fraudulent report would be provided by the level of idiot becoming commonplace in this industry


    Regards, UKPN




    So what you are saying is that customers should instruct an electrician to “service” their electrical installations and undertake all repairs so that they always get a satisfactory EICR?


    This installation is ####, the discussion is not about if it is bad, just how bad. I have no sympathy for the person who received an unsatisfactory EICR, it’s their own fault for not getting the installation tidied up before it was inspected and tested.


    We can only see a section of the cable, but some people seem to think it is outrageous to state that the cable needs impact protection, but it may be quite a sensible observation.


     


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    newtoeicr:

    Hi,



    I’ve just had an EICR done last week, One item I do not understand and would need an electrician or someone to help please. the EICR report says “MISSING TRUNKING WITH WIRES NOT SUPPORTED C2 SHED.” The cable is clipped on the wood wall in the shed. There are no exposed wires. And the shed is not on escape routes. Does cable need to be in trunking in order to comply with the electrical wire regulation? Is the code 2 correct for this situation?  please see photo.1ff9527a633c65202618bef88f7b0919-original-shed.jpg



    Thank you for help






    There is not actually ANY CLIPS securing the cable.


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