EICR failed missing trunking?

Hmm, I`m (slightly) at odds with Sparkingchip on this.

He`d start at C2 and might workdown to a C3. I`d start at a C3 but might work up to a C2. I suspect that if we both view that actual site we`d most probably give the same code. It`s just we can`t see it all at the moment

I am getting the feeling that some posters have never inspected and tested a property for an EICR.


At the beginning of last year I bought a new rucksack on wheels tool bag and tools just for doing EICRs.


So as an example, I went to do a landlords EICR in a flat over shops in Stourport on Severn town centre, I parked in a car park and paid to park using an app on my mobile phone. I extended the handle on my tool bag so I could pull it on its wheels to the flat which was a considerable distance away, I clipped my rechargeable work light to the tool bag handle and stuffed my coffee mug in a side pocket. Then I pulled the bag through the town centre with my tester hung over a shoulder and carrying an aluminium hop-up in my spare hand.


In the bag I had a bag of long accessory screws to refit fittings after inspection and to replace the odd missing screw, labels as commenting on a missing label is petty, spare batteries for smoke alarms, an abrasive sheet for occasionally cleaning up terminals, a few cheap terminal enclosure boxes just in case there’s one odd unenclosed terminal strip and that’s it.


There’s no way when that when you’re working in a flat over the shops doing an EICR that you are going to keep nipping back to the van to get materials to do repairs as a gesture of goodwill will, when you have to get out before the parking period expires in the short stay car park and you have got to get to the next job. But why should you?


In the van itself I have a small stock of spare smoke alarms of various types and fittings, etc. But if I have to go and fetch materials to make a repair it fully chargeable including the walking times. 


A few months ago I did two landlords EICRs in an area where there is a residents only parking scheme in a void property, landlords cannot get visitors parking permits, because landlords are not residents, I dropped my kit off in the house then went and parked several streets away, a distance of 0.4 miles and an eight minute walk each way. That is not unusual, going to get something from the van can take over quarter of a hour.


Generally I allow around four hours onsite for a landlords EICR with the aim of getting two inspections and tests done in a day, but in addition to that there is the office work to do which is at least a hour for most EICRs to do the report and invoice then email them, that’s without getting bogged down quoting remedial work.


There have been days when I went and did the I&T in empty properties at seven o’clock in the morning and been out of the first job by ten o’clock, but you cannot do things like that in occupied homes full of furniture and people working from home and the kids off school.


It would be really nice to get paid a couple of hundred quid to go to a property and quietly work through the I&T clipping the odd loose cable here and there, sticking missing labels on and the like, but life’s not like that as many installations are just a pile of ####, the van is parked a considerable distance away and time is limited.

I just looked at those photos and spotted a handy item that wasn't on my list,  it's always good to have one of these to hand for that 16 mm twin and earth cable terminated into the fused main switch with its sheath stripped back.

I do not presume anything is safe and satisfactory when inspecting and testing electrical installations, always assume that you might not live to walk back out of the door to go home if you do not keep your wits about you. Start at the intake and confirm the means of earth is satisfactory along with the DNO equipment, then work out to the extremities of the installation to the ends of the circuits, stopping when you find an issue to decide how to proceed. Anyone who starts at the ends of the circuits and work back to the intake is putting themselves and others at risk.


People have died and been injured whilst undertaking inspection and testing for EICRs, some have never being able to complete the report.


Anyway it is totally obvious that this particular installation is unsatisfactory without any discussion, the cable is not secured at all, it now needs securing in a way that complies with the regulations, as if it were being installed for the first time, unless you are going to record deviations from the Wiring Regulations on the Minor Works Certificate that should be appended to the EICR to show that the remedial work has been completed in a satisfactory and workmanlike manner. 

Lol ... this is beginning to feel like a wind up from 'newtoeicr' and you lot have jumped into the hole with your shovels. Awarded 7/10. Not bad for Friday pm.

The guy is most likely trained (in something) and obviously cheesed off with 5day wonder boys posing as the real thing so he/she decided to check the judgement from great towers of excellence..........

?  ..?

Got to give the client their monies worth.


I was eyeing this up as a possible wind up ?


I’m not quite sure when stating an electrical installation in a shed has to comply to the Wiring Regulations became a sign of incompetence.