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Fire Risk Assessment.

Good morning all,


 What qualifications does a fire risk assessor have to have to be competent, and to be able to comply legally with his designs for fire alarm systems etc?


My customer is getting in a bloke to carry out a fire risk assessment prior to installing smoke/heat/CO alarms in a rental holiday cottage.


Can just any old unqualified body claim to be a fire risk assessor, like estate agents that need no formal qualifications?


Thanks,


Z.
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  • I'm qualified to carry out fire risk assessments, I have NEBOSH general certificate and RRFSO add-on, I did it about 12 years ago, so can't remember the exact names, it took two weeks full time and the exams were externally marked, with none of the tutor hinting the right answers, like the asbestos courses!


    There isn't any pass or fail either, you do the assessment, and produce an action plan, which may include things like the emergency lighting needs repair or the need for fire extinguishers in the kitchen should be assessed 



    it does not cover things like designing a fire alarm, you would say something like 'the fire alarm has been designed and installed to BS5839 and is maintained by a third party competent contractor and records are held.' 


    you could note that some detection appears to be missing, and then recommend that it is investigated or its absence justified. 


    The trend these days is to fire alarm everything, but you ought to exhaust the passive fire protection first, that is always the most important thing, and that is also what failed at Grenfell, because the building was altered from its passively safe design. 


    holes made by trades is often an easy spot above suspended ceilings, or badly or non-maintained plant or machinery



    The client then needs to write an evacuation plan, and practice it


    to be honest, it's more like an audit if anyone is familiar with that. The fire brigade will only do a risk assessment for blocks of flats, as the common areas are considered to be streets, so they should have done a risk assessment and familiarisation visit at Grenfell. 


    If you ask their advice, you won't get any, they are just like the HSE in that regard. They will tell you when they think it's wrong though, but it's too late by that time.
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  • I'm qualified to carry out fire risk assessments, I have NEBOSH general certificate and RRFSO add-on, I did it about 12 years ago, so can't remember the exact names, it took two weeks full time and the exams were externally marked, with none of the tutor hinting the right answers, like the asbestos courses!


    There isn't any pass or fail either, you do the assessment, and produce an action plan, which may include things like the emergency lighting needs repair or the need for fire extinguishers in the kitchen should be assessed 



    it does not cover things like designing a fire alarm, you would say something like 'the fire alarm has been designed and installed to BS5839 and is maintained by a third party competent contractor and records are held.' 


    you could note that some detection appears to be missing, and then recommend that it is investigated or its absence justified. 


    The trend these days is to fire alarm everything, but you ought to exhaust the passive fire protection first, that is always the most important thing, and that is also what failed at Grenfell, because the building was altered from its passively safe design. 


    holes made by trades is often an easy spot above suspended ceilings, or badly or non-maintained plant or machinery



    The client then needs to write an evacuation plan, and practice it


    to be honest, it's more like an audit if anyone is familiar with that. The fire brigade will only do a risk assessment for blocks of flats, as the common areas are considered to be streets, so they should have done a risk assessment and familiarisation visit at Grenfell. 


    If you ask their advice, you won't get any, they are just like the HSE in that regard. They will tell you when they think it's wrong though, but it's too late by that time.
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