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BS5839 or HTM 05 Fire Safety

Adrian B
Afternoon All


Hopefully there is someone out there to provide some advice as I am somewhat stumped on this topic....


Can anyone advise whether BS5839 takes precedence over HTM 05, or, visa versa?


Currently working on a project and the incumbent fire alarm specialist is adamant that the HTM's take precedence, but, the Fire Officer believes that the BS does.


Cheers as always for any opinions and advice.


Regards


Adrian.
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    Ok, I have reviewed a little further in to what the dispute appears to be about and on one hand I have the incumbent fire specialist quoting section 4.6 from HTM 05-03 Part B which states the following:

    L1 system should be provided

    throughout all parts of hospital premises.

    However, detectors need not normally be

    provided in the following areas:

    voids and roof spaces of any depth which

    contain only:

    (i) MICC or wiring clipped to a metal tray

    or within metal conduit or trunking;

    (ii) non-combustible pipework and ducts;

    (iii) metal or plastic pipes used for water

    supply or drainage;

    bath/shower rooms;

    toilets in staff areas;

    small cupboards (less than 1 m2);

    operating theatres.

    In any case the omission of detectors should be

    subject to a risk assessment.


    ....    and then, on the other hand, I have the Fire Officer stating that any void (800mm - 1500mm) should be provided with void detection as per BS5839.


    So, I can see why there appears to be some disagreement with what strategy to employ


    Regards


    Adrian
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    Ok, I have reviewed a little further in to what the dispute appears to be about and on one hand I have the incumbent fire specialist quoting section 4.6 from HTM 05-03 Part B which states the following:

    L1 system should be provided

    throughout all parts of hospital premises.

    However, detectors need not normally be

    provided in the following areas:

    voids and roof spaces of any depth which

    contain only:

    (i) MICC or wiring clipped to a metal tray

    or within metal conduit or trunking;

    (ii) non-combustible pipework and ducts;

    (iii) metal or plastic pipes used for water

    supply or drainage;

    bath/shower rooms;

    toilets in staff areas;

    small cupboards (less than 1 m2);

    operating theatres.

    In any case the omission of detectors should be

    subject to a risk assessment.


    ....    and then, on the other hand, I have the Fire Officer stating that any void (800mm - 1500mm) should be provided with void detection as per BS5839.


    So, I can see why there appears to be some disagreement with what strategy to employ


    Regards


    Adrian
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