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I just thought of something

I know it`s many years ago that I queried the age old saying that was taught in college etc as to the r1 & r2 cross connection to form a double loop and the statement was made that this gave the exactly the R1 + R2 reading of the whole ring when taken from any point on the ring.

My statement was that this statement was not quite right and the word "exactly" needs substituting with "substantially" (I think the error was about 6% which as 6% of an already small number was not a great worry and it was still a very good approximation fit for use).


Anyway to add to that,,it just occurred to me . If we leave connected and test at a spur then it adds the spur value to the (nearly) ring value so that`s usually OK too.

However that`s only for spurs near to ring midpoint.!

If we had a spur nearer to one ring end than to midpoint it would therefore give a missleadingly large R1 + R2 value.

Not normally an issue but in extreme cases too pessimistic and causing a headscratch.


Off course field errors and instrument errors give missleading readings too.


I`d say once we done the fig 8 for the ring we should really connect ring ends together then test R1 + R2 from ring origin to each spur end to get as truer reading.


I know, I should get out more


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  • Yes you`re right Graham the R1 + R2 we record is a (often theoretical) point exactly half way around the ring (which is the worst place)

    The cross connected ring would give readings substantially similar when the test is done at any point.

    Of course theory only because you would have real world measuring inaccuracies.

    However this theoretical value still varies 6% around the ring before taking these errors into the mix.

    That was the point of my original working out a few years back when I noticed the word "exactly" being used quite a lot.

    I only realised that any radial connected to the ring (ie a spur) should be measured without the crossover or an error would creep in because it would be added to near ring midpoint reading rather than an actual position of connection point.

    More of a thought exercise really because we wouldn`t normally be working with rings and spurs approaching safe limits in reality anyway.
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  • Yes you`re right Graham the R1 + R2 we record is a (often theoretical) point exactly half way around the ring (which is the worst place)

    The cross connected ring would give readings substantially similar when the test is done at any point.

    Of course theory only because you would have real world measuring inaccuracies.

    However this theoretical value still varies 6% around the ring before taking these errors into the mix.

    That was the point of my original working out a few years back when I noticed the word "exactly" being used quite a lot.

    I only realised that any radial connected to the ring (ie a spur) should be measured without the crossover or an error would creep in because it would be added to near ring midpoint reading rather than an actual position of connection point.

    More of a thought exercise really because we wouldn`t normally be working with rings and spurs approaching safe limits in reality anyway.
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