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800M 32mm SWA - could this cause increased electricity bills due to voltage loss

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Hi all,


Our electricity usage is very high (6,000 KWH annually) but we dont have any electricity heating or anything that should be chewing up that much electricity.


I'm looking for reasons why the usage is so high.


Our meter is actually sited on a neighbouring property and then a 35mm2 2 core SWA cable runs approx 800 meters to an Ashley Eddison transformer that regulates the voltage and amperage.


Could the length of the cable, the associated voltage drop and then the transformer usage contribute significantly to the electricity usage..?


Thanks and my apologies for any inaccuracies and ignorance!

Rolf
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  • That transformer is a 20KVA ( ~ 90 amp ) unit, and the data sheet quotes 98% efficiency, but it is not clear how the loses vary with loading.

    If the loss is constant then 2% of 20kw would be 400W. Not all of your static load, but certainly a chunk of it.

    more realistically I imagine that 2% loss is at fulll load however, and  the losses are reduced to perhaps half that at low load, but could still be a few hundred watts running all the time.


    Now if you ever did want the full 90A then that 35mm cable would drop nearly 90V (being about 1 ohm round trip, half an ohm there and half an ohm back  ) so you can see why the self adjusting transformer is attractive.


    However a circuit that kicked the transformer off and connected directly when the house load fell below perhaps a kW or so would be worth having.


    It does leave one to wonder if having the HV mains and a pole-pig transformer brought nearer would have been a better option when the place was built . Probably too expensive now.

    There is a good reason that the LV network does not have very long runs in if it can be avoided. (a long run as a quick rule of thumb is scales with the voltage, 12m is a long way for a power circuit at 12V,  400m is a long way at 400V, 11km is a long way for an 11kV line etc.  Does not mean impossible, but may mean oversized cables or special tricks or needed - rather like this.)

    Mike

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  • That transformer is a 20KVA ( ~ 90 amp ) unit, and the data sheet quotes 98% efficiency, but it is not clear how the loses vary with loading.

    If the loss is constant then 2% of 20kw would be 400W. Not all of your static load, but certainly a chunk of it.

    more realistically I imagine that 2% loss is at fulll load however, and  the losses are reduced to perhaps half that at low load, but could still be a few hundred watts running all the time.


    Now if you ever did want the full 90A then that 35mm cable would drop nearly 90V (being about 1 ohm round trip, half an ohm there and half an ohm back  ) so you can see why the self adjusting transformer is attractive.


    However a circuit that kicked the transformer off and connected directly when the house load fell below perhaps a kW or so would be worth having.


    It does leave one to wonder if having the HV mains and a pole-pig transformer brought nearer would have been a better option when the place was built . Probably too expensive now.

    There is a good reason that the LV network does not have very long runs in if it can be avoided. (a long run as a quick rule of thumb is scales with the voltage, 12m is a long way for a power circuit at 12V,  400m is a long way at 400V, 11km is a long way for an 11kV line etc.  Does not mean impossible, but may mean oversized cables or special tricks or needed - rather like this.)

    Mike

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