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800M 32mm SWA - could this cause increased electricity bills due to voltage loss

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Hi all,


Our electricity usage is very high (6,000 KWH annually) but we dont have any electricity heating or anything that should be chewing up that much electricity.


I'm looking for reasons why the usage is so high.


Our meter is actually sited on a neighbouring property and then a 35mm2 2 core SWA cable runs approx 800 meters to an Ashley Eddison transformer that regulates the voltage and amperage.


Could the length of the cable, the associated voltage drop and then the transformer usage contribute significantly to the electricity usage..?


Thanks and my apologies for any inaccuracies and ignorance!

Rolf
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    Perhaps I'm being rather slow here, but  assuming a constant 230 V at the origin of 800 m of 35 mm2 with a 30 A load at the end you'd end up with about 203 V at the end. Power in = 6900 W, power at end = 6090 W so there is 810 W loss in the cable.

    If the magic box receives 203 V and ups it to the desired 230 V from the delivered 6090 W, we get 26.5 A at 100% efficiency. At 98% declared we get 26 A 

    But we want 30 A at 230 V so to get this 6900 W we have to supply more than 30 A at the origin.

    Let's try 34 A at the origin.

    Voltage at end 200 V. Power in = 7820 W. power at end = 6800 W so there is a 1020 W loss in the cable.

    Again with receiving 200 V and ups it to the desired 230 V from the delivered 6800 W, we get 29.6 A at 100% efficiency. At 98% declared we get 29 A. Getting closer.

    Try 35 A at origin. Voltage at end 199 V. Power in = 8050 W. power at end = 6965 W so there is a 1085 W loss in the cable.

    Again with receiving 199 V and ups it to the desired 230 V from the delivered 6965 W, we get 30.3 A at 100% efficiency. At 98% declared we get 29.7 A.

    There must be an easier iterative way but to get our 30 A supply at 230 V, we must supply 35 A at the origin. A true efficiency of around 86%. 17 p/kWh at origin becomes 20p/kWh..............


    Anyone care to do the calcs for the installed 20 kVA?


    It is past my bedtime so EOE and I welcome your replies and corrections!


    Regards


    BED

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  • Former Community Member
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    Perhaps I'm being rather slow here, but  assuming a constant 230 V at the origin of 800 m of 35 mm2 with a 30 A load at the end you'd end up with about 203 V at the end. Power in = 6900 W, power at end = 6090 W so there is 810 W loss in the cable.

    If the magic box receives 203 V and ups it to the desired 230 V from the delivered 6090 W, we get 26.5 A at 100% efficiency. At 98% declared we get 26 A 

    But we want 30 A at 230 V so to get this 6900 W we have to supply more than 30 A at the origin.

    Let's try 34 A at the origin.

    Voltage at end 200 V. Power in = 7820 W. power at end = 6800 W so there is a 1020 W loss in the cable.

    Again with receiving 200 V and ups it to the desired 230 V from the delivered 6800 W, we get 29.6 A at 100% efficiency. At 98% declared we get 29 A. Getting closer.

    Try 35 A at origin. Voltage at end 199 V. Power in = 8050 W. power at end = 6965 W so there is a 1085 W loss in the cable.

    Again with receiving 199 V and ups it to the desired 230 V from the delivered 6965 W, we get 30.3 A at 100% efficiency. At 98% declared we get 29.7 A.

    There must be an easier iterative way but to get our 30 A supply at 230 V, we must supply 35 A at the origin. A true efficiency of around 86%. 17 p/kWh at origin becomes 20p/kWh..............


    Anyone care to do the calcs for the installed 20 kVA?


    It is past my bedtime so EOE and I welcome your replies and corrections!


    Regards


    BED

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