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EICR Remedial Work

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Hi, my first post, I wondered if I could get some advice from the community regarding a failed EICR report and the subsequent remedial works.

Me letting agent appointed a local electrical firm to conduct an EICR report on my flat before new tenants moved in. The timescale was tight since the new tenants were due to move in on the 1st Feb.


The flat is a purpose-built flat constructed in 2005 so id be surprised if the electrics were too far out of spec.


The report came back as failed due to the following points:


1 No Bonding, substantial metal pipework in property

8 Fan is not low voltage in bathroom, and is in zone 2


the quotation for the remedial work was to install 100mm bonding from the consumer unit to the stop cock and replace the extractor with an extra low voltage fan and controller.

"estimate of a morning for 2 which hopefully will be less, however the route is not particularly easy" - £630 inc VAT.


the quote sounded high for a mornings work but due to time constraints i had to agree.


the final invoice came back as 28 hours work, £1399...  so that's 28 hours work to run about 6metres of earth bonding and replace the bathroom fan when the initial quote was a morning's work for £630.


So obviously I've questioned this and after doing some digging, I found that firstly 230v fans are allowed in zone 2, and not all incoming water pipes need to be bonded if there is plastic in the incoming supply..


I'll upload screenshots of the paper work and photos of the job, but any advice would be greatly appreciated!

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  • You've definitedly been had here.


    As to how you may get out of it, you'll need to consider who you have contracted with, for what work, and on what terms. As others have said, you may not benefit from consumer protection and standard contract law will apply. If your instruction for the work was to the managing agent, and you are paying them for the work (which they effectively sub-contract to the electical contractor) then you will need to carefully read the terms you have with that agent regarding this. You'll likley find that the terms are heavily weighted in their favour and if you signed up to them then unless they are challengable as unfair terms you are stuck with them.


    If you effectively instructed the electrician directly (even if the agent passed those instructions on), and the electrician invoiced you directly, then you are likely to have a contract wth them. As to the terms of that contract, the electrican may refer to their 'standard terms' but if they have never sent them to you and you have not agreed to them (explicitly, or implcitly by performance) then they cannot unilaterally impose them on you at a later time.


    You'll need to determine who your contract for this work is with - as that is who you need to write to formally stating your positon, and that is who would need to take you to court to get you to pay.


    Have you now been issued with a 'satisfactoy' EICR to meet your obligations under the new Regulations?  If you have, then in your written statement you might want to consider making an offer to pay what is a reasonable amount for the work - maybe even pay that, and leave them to chase you legally for the rest.  If you haven't (if they are witholding it) then you're a bit stuck and may need to consider appointing someone else to prrovide one and deduct the costs of doing so from the original charges you agreed for the initlal inspection.


    It can all get a bit complicated and this is getting more to legal advice than technical - I am not a lawyer but I do have some experience of commercial disputes.  Am happy to have a chat about how this might go if you drop me a PM.  You should however seek a negotiated resolution first which will likely involve paying something for the (albeit shoddy) services you received.  


    You can of course dig your heels in and pay nothing, and give your reasons why, but I would expect a chase.  Perhaps pay for the original inspection and refuse to pay for the un-necessary remedial work (if you have your Satisfactory EICR now)?


    Jason.




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  • You've definitedly been had here.


    As to how you may get out of it, you'll need to consider who you have contracted with, for what work, and on what terms. As others have said, you may not benefit from consumer protection and standard contract law will apply. If your instruction for the work was to the managing agent, and you are paying them for the work (which they effectively sub-contract to the electical contractor) then you will need to carefully read the terms you have with that agent regarding this. You'll likley find that the terms are heavily weighted in their favour and if you signed up to them then unless they are challengable as unfair terms you are stuck with them.


    If you effectively instructed the electrician directly (even if the agent passed those instructions on), and the electrician invoiced you directly, then you are likely to have a contract wth them. As to the terms of that contract, the electrican may refer to their 'standard terms' but if they have never sent them to you and you have not agreed to them (explicitly, or implcitly by performance) then they cannot unilaterally impose them on you at a later time.


    You'll need to determine who your contract for this work is with - as that is who you need to write to formally stating your positon, and that is who would need to take you to court to get you to pay.


    Have you now been issued with a 'satisfactoy' EICR to meet your obligations under the new Regulations?  If you have, then in your written statement you might want to consider making an offer to pay what is a reasonable amount for the work - maybe even pay that, and leave them to chase you legally for the rest.  If you haven't (if they are witholding it) then you're a bit stuck and may need to consider appointing someone else to prrovide one and deduct the costs of doing so from the original charges you agreed for the initlal inspection.


    It can all get a bit complicated and this is getting more to legal advice than technical - I am not a lawyer but I do have some experience of commercial disputes.  Am happy to have a chat about how this might go if you drop me a PM.  You should however seek a negotiated resolution first which will likely involve paying something for the (albeit shoddy) services you received.  


    You can of course dig your heels in and pay nothing, and give your reasons why, but I would expect a chase.  Perhaps pay for the original inspection and refuse to pay for the un-necessary remedial work (if you have your Satisfactory EICR now)?


    Jason.




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