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Emergency Light Test Switch.

Is it o.k. to use a non switched fused connection unit as an emergency light test switch? If not why not?


Z.
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    Is it o.k. to use a non switched fused connection unit as an emergency light test switch? If not why not?


    Z.


    Why would you want to do that, to answer your question I can't a reason against it has it will still simulate power loss when testing. 


    Regards Ts


  • I would agree with the 'why do you want to' when there are perfectly good products available designed for the purpose.  Have you got one left on the van?


    Down sides I can see are:

    1:It would be 'unexpected' by someone else carrying out a later test - but some good labelling should get over that

    2: Depending on the FCU it could be a bit fiddlier to get the fuse out and back in again than using a fishtail keyswitch

    3: The fuse could possibly blow and not be noticed, leaving a non-savvy user without their emergency lighting supply maybe.  A sturdy bit of 6mm studding in the FCU in place of the fuse would fix that though - assuming the circuit protection is good enough elsewhere.  Arguably the risk of the fuse blowing is no greater than that of the OCPD tripping/blowing - but it could confuse a later spark as to where to look for the problem!


    None of the above are a really good reason not to.....but:


    From a regs perspective, I would think this is regarded as 'functional switching' (switching for the function of testing emergency lighting) and as such is not permitted by means of an unswitched FCU by table 537.4.


    Jason.
  • With those FCUs with a fuse draw that slowly comes out as the holding screw is turned, I wouldn't like to use it as a functional switch with any significant load - certainly not regularly - at some point in the process there'll be just a slight gap between the fuse and contacts and it'll arc - doing the FCU no good at all.

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  • From a regs perspective, I would think this is regarded as 'functional switching' (switching for the function of testing emergency lighting) and as such is not permitted by means of an unswitched FCU by table 537.4.


    Jason.


    I disagree as "functional switching" is defined on page 20 as;" An operation intended to switch "on" or "off" or vary the supply of electrical energy to all or part of an installation for NORMAL OPERATING PURPOSES." (Caps mine.)


    Normal operating purposes like the use of a light switch is NOT involved here. The fused connection unit would only be used occasionally for testing purposes of the emergency light.


    Z.


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    With those FCUs with a fuse draw that slowly comes out as the holding screw is turned, I wouldn't like to use it as a functional switch with any significant load - certainly not regularly - at some point in the process there'll be just a slight gap between the fuse and contacts and it'll arc - doing the FCU no good at all.

      - Andy.


    No fuse drawer worm screw involved here Andy, just a flat bladed screwdriver.


    Z.


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    I disagree as "functional switching" is defined on page 20 as;" An operation intended to switch "on" or "off" or vary the supply of electrical energy to all or part of an installation for NORMAL OPERATING PURPOSES." (Caps mine.)


    Normal operating purposes like the use of a light switch is NOT involved here. The fused connection unit would only be used occasionally for testing purposes of the emergency light.


    Z.




    Is testing of emergency lighting not a 'normal' operation?  It's certainly not emergency switching.  Just because that switching operation may not be of daily frequency doesn't mean it's not 'normal', and some venues, especially places of entertainment could be conducting weekly emergency lighting testing.  That seems a pretty 'normal' operation to me.


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    I disagree as "functional switching" is defined on page 20 as;" An operation intended to switch "on" or "off" or vary the supply of electrical energy to all or part of an installation for NORMAL OPERATING PURPOSES." (Caps mine.)


    Normal operating purposes like the use of a light switch is NOT involved here. The fused connection unit would only be used occasionally for testing purposes of the emergency light.


    Z.




    Is testing of emergency lighting not a 'normal' operation?  It's certainly not emergency switching.  Just because that switching operation may not be of daily frequency doesn't mean it's not 'normal', and some venues, especially places of entertainment could be conducting weekly emergency lighting testing.  That seems a pretty 'normal' operation to me.




    The fused connection unit fuse will only be removed once a year for emergency light battery testing. Short duration monthly tests can be carried out by turning off the local lighting circuit R.C.B.O. My installation is not a place of entertainment or similar.


    Z.


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    Is it o.k. to use a non switched fused connection unit as an emergency light test switch? If not why not?


    Z.


    Why would you want to do that, to answer your question I can't a reason against it has it will still simulate power loss when testing. 


    Regards Ts




    With fish key switches the house owner can lose them, I have often found this situation.  Also the switches  can be left in the wrong position.

    Testing Emergency Lighting - Bing video


    Z.