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Is a QS entitled to sign off an EICR?

Chris Pearson
Open to debate, but I say no.


The whole concept of QS seems to be a creation of NICEIC, but I can see the point of it. If I am employed by DZ Electrical and make a mess of things, the company is vicariously responsible for my errors. I cannot be sued. So it would be in the interests of DZ Electrical to ensure that I am competent to work for them.


However, I suggest that an EICR is personal. The model form in Appendix 6 (page 473) has a declaration, but includes the name and signature of the inspector and tester as well as whoever authorises the report.

651.5 The periodic inspection and testing shall be carried out by one or more skilled persons competent in such work. Skilled person is defined in Part 2. If the identity of the inspector and tester is not disclosed, how may I as the client know that he or she is skilled?


The Electrical Safety Standards in the Private Rented Sector (England) Regulations 2020 require that A private landlord ... must ... ensure that every electrical installation in the residential premises is inspected and tested at regular intervals by a qualified person and qualified person is defined as a person competent to undertake the inspection and testing required under regulation 3(1) and any further investigative or remedial work in accordance with the electrical safety standards.


If the identity of the inspector and tester is not revealed, how could the landlord possibly ensure that he (or she) is qualified?


So, in my opinion, at the very least for a private landlord's report, the EICR must be signed off by the inspector and tester. I might go further and suggest that the report should include the inspector's qualifications.
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    Part P has nothing to do with it.

    Part P is a single sentence Building Regulation stating that work must ensure protection of people from fire or injury.


    The registration bodies were introduced in 2005 to regulate ancillary trades and DIYers who do certain types of electrical work.

    Then in 2013 in England, those types of work were so reduced that the ancillary trades and DIYers were effectively removed from the need to register - leaving only actual electricians (and plumbers fitting new electric shower circuits). 


    Now there is the Landlords Inspection requirements which do not mention EICRs but everyone assumes that this is what is required because there is nothing else.

    That absolutely anyone may (is allowed to) carry out EICRs without restriction is obviously not the ideal situation.


    It is odd how those who make the rules do not seem to know how things work.

    They might as well have passed a law prohibiting unscrupulous landlords with no definitions nor means of determining the situation and enforcing it.
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    Part P has nothing to do with it.

    Part P is a single sentence Building Regulation stating that work must ensure protection of people from fire or injury.


    The registration bodies were introduced in 2005 to regulate ancillary trades and DIYers who do certain types of electrical work.

    Then in 2013 in England, those types of work were so reduced that the ancillary trades and DIYers were effectively removed from the need to register - leaving only actual electricians (and plumbers fitting new electric shower circuits). 


    Now there is the Landlords Inspection requirements which do not mention EICRs but everyone assumes that this is what is required because there is nothing else.

    That absolutely anyone may (is allowed to) carry out EICRs without restriction is obviously not the ideal situation.


    It is odd how those who make the rules do not seem to know how things work.

    They might as well have passed a law prohibiting unscrupulous landlords with no definitions nor means of determining the situation and enforcing it.
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